My new ribbon bars - some questions

[Noor]

Hello all,

I got those two ribbon bars yesterday and I have some questions.

1. Five place ribbon bar

EK2/Hindenburg (missing swords)/Westwall (???)/LS/Bavaria MVK

Is the third ribbon Westwall? Also there was device on the LS award ribbon .... its look funny shape mark on the ribbon, like a square or etc?
This bar is not in the best shape but still I am happy to have it!

[Noor]

2. Prussian four place ribbon bar

EK2/Allegemeines Ehrenzeichen (?)/Hindenburg cross with swords/Silesian Eagle 2nd class
Its look like he wasn't in the regular army because missing LS award? Some kind a civil servant - Beamter? But why then this EK2?
Second ribbon - is it Allegemeines Ehrenzeichen or Order of the Red Eagle even or ... impossible to say?
Any ideas about that ribbon bar at all?
I like the back plate! Different then I have seen before :jumping: .

[paddywhack]

Hello all,


Is the third ribbon Westwall? Also there was device on the LS award ribbon .... its look funny shape mark on the ribbon, like a square or etc?
This bar is not in the best shape but still I am happy to have it!

i think the device on the blue ribbion could be a long service like the one iv posted!

[McCulloh]

I agree with Paddy- I think it was a civil service LS device.