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    Prussian quartets

    "Prussian quartets" is the category.

    Not counting the rarified Order of the Black Eagle, Prussia had four orders awarded to military personnel - the Order "Pour le Mérite" (PlM), the Order of the Red Eagle (RAO), Order of the Crown (KO) and the Royal House Order of Hohenzollern (HHO).

    We've seen a number of "Saxon trios" (holders of the St. Henry, Zivildienstorden and Albert) and even an occasional "Württemberg trio" (Crown, MVO, Friedrich). How about "Prussian quartets"?

    Here is one: Ludwig von Estorff, one of the subjects of my research query thread, received the PlM in September 1917. For his colonial campaigns, he had received the RAO 3rd Class with Crown, Swords and Bow on the "two-times black and three-times white-striped ribbon", the KO 3rd Class with Swords and the HHO Knight with Swords. The one thing I don't know about is that other little Prussian award, the Iron Cross, but given how many other combat decorations he had, and given that there were three years of war before he got the PlM, I would think it likely.

    Next is another Schutz-trooper. Victor Franke was (as a major) the second in command of the Schutztruppe für Deutsch-Südwestafrika when the war broke out. When the commander, Lt. Col. Joachim von Heydebreck was mortally wounded in a rifle grenade accident in November 1914, Franke became commander of the Schutztruppe. Franke was wounded in Dec. 1914 at the capture of the Portuguese Fort Naulila. German resistance finally ended in mid-1915 and Lt. Col. Franke was interned along with the other active German soldiers. He retired as a Generalmajor in 1920. Despite his short World War One career, Franke is here because he managed to get the quartet before the war even started. Having (as a captain) led the relief of Omaruru in the Herero Uprising in 1904, he was one of the few colonial wars PlM recipients. He also had the RAO 3rd Class with Crown and Swords, the KO 4th Class with Swords and the HHO Knight with Swords. Oh, and the Prussian Life Saving Medal. I also believe he received the Iron Cross for his role in the Battle of Sandfontein on Sept. 26, 1914 or for the capture of Fort Naulila but I'm not sure. Adding in his Bavarian MVO3x, Saxon Albert Order Knight 1st Class with Crown and Swords, and Württemberg Crown Order Knight with Lions and Swords, he was probably the most highly decorated German colonial warrior.

    Estorff and Franke are two of only six HHO with Swords recipients for the colonial wars, according to Eric Ludvigsen's research. By contrast, some 632 RAOs 3rd and 4th Class with Swords and 1,377 KOs 3rd and 4th Class with Swords were awarded in the colonial period. During World War One however, 8,291 HHO Knight's Crosses with Swords were awarded, but only 116 RAOs 3rd and 4th Class with Swords and around 55 KOs 3rd and 4th Class with Swords.

    Consequently, the Prussian Quartet should be rare, except perhaps for a few colonial veterans who already had the RAO and KO with swords and who picked up an HHO and PlM in the Great War. There were 26 in the Schutztruppe in the 1914 rank list, but none, except Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, seem to have gotten the PlM. But there may be other former Schutz-troopers like Estorff out there.

    Another possibility is Field Marshal Remus von Woyrsch. As commanding general of the Landwehr Corps, he received the PlM on Oct. 25, 1914. He received the Oakleaves the following year. He had received the EKII 1870 but does not appear to have received the EKI 1914 (at least he isn't wearing it in photos where he does wear the EKII and the PlM). If his RAO, KO and HHO were upgraded to swords during the war, that would be a Prussian clean sweep (and he was a member of the Order of the Black Eagle too).

    There might also be a few other senior generals - Hindenburg, Falkenhayn, Mackensen - who received the PlM and may have had their peacetime orders upgraded to swords.

    Does anyone know any others with the Prussian quartet?
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    Some who came close:

    Walter von Eberhardt had the RAO 2nd Class with Swords, the KO 2nd Class with Star with Swords, the HHO Commander with Swords, and the EK I and II. He also had the Prussian Life Saving Medal. But no PlM.

    Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck had, pre-war, the RAO 4th Class with Crown and Swords and the KO 3rd Class with Swords. During the war, he added a Crown Order 2nd Class with Swords, the EK I and II, a PlM and oakleaves to his PlM. But he never got the HHO.

    Manfred Freiherr von Richtofen had the PlM, RAO 3rd Class with Swords, HHO Knight with Swords and EK I and II, but no Crown Order.

    Rudolf Windisch had the PlM, KO 4th Class with Swords, HHO Knight with Swords and EK I and II, but no Red Eagle. Still, not being an officer at the time, his KO was rather exceptional.

    Cheers,
    Dave

    #2
    Pretty pictures?

    First, Ludwig von Estorff, partially showing off that exceptionally rare (literally unique) Red Eagle combination he had:

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      #3
      Next, probably the most highly decorated Schutz-trooper out there, Victor Franke:

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        #4
        Dave. Who were the highest decorated combat veterns of S. Africa and China?

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          #5
          From the website "Das Deutsche Reich und der 1.Weltkrieg 1914-1918", Remus von Woyrsch:

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            #6
            Hi Dave, dont forget that Woyrsch also had a Militärehrenzeichen 2.Klasse.

            There are around 6 colonial awards of the Hohenzoller with swords, so at least 6 guys who held a HOH3X, RAO with X and KO with X.
            For example Hans Dominik. Got HOH3X, RAO4X, KO4X, a Baden Zähringer Löwe knight X NOT in China NOT in southwest.

            Will look in my files to find some more combos.

            For WW1 hopeless to list everything. A Col. could get the HOH3X early in the war, later the KO2X, got promoted to General and got the RAO2X.

            There are also Generals who got the RAO2X, later the Star with X, later the RAO1 X.

            Best regards

            Daniel

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              #7
              I don't have a rank list earlier than 1912, so I can't ID all his awards for certain, but Lothar von Trotha had at least an EKII 1870, a Red Eagle 2nd Class with Swords, a Crown Order 2nd Class with Star with Swords on Ring, and a Pour le Merite (like Franke, for the 1904 Herero Uprising). I have no idea if he had an HHO, though.

              Von Trotha was a veteran of the Austro-Prussian War (Fähnrich), Franco-Prussian War (lieutenant, EKII and twice wounded), Boxer Rebellion (brigade commander) and Herero Uprising (expedition commander-in-chief and acting governor). He also served in East Africa from 1894 to 1897.

              Here is a pre-PlM portrait. Note the Iron Crown at the end of the medal bar, the Albert and the White Falcon commanders, and the breast star (to go with a commander's badge below the White Falcon) for the Order of the Italian Crown. I can't tell what's between the Albert and White Falcon - it kinda looks like a Franz Josef, or maybe a Zähringen Lion.

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                #8
                Did somebody say Dominik?

                Originally posted by Daniel Krause
                For example Hans Dominik. Got HOH3X, RAO4X, KO4X, a Baden Zähringer Löwe knight X NOT in China NOT in southwest.
                Dominik led the pacification of Cameroon (Kamerun). He was there for 16 years and died on the return trip in 1910.


                (c) Siegfried Benker


                (c) Bildarchiv DKG

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                  #9
                  Another super-quartett held Leonhard Karl Konstantin Graf von Blumenthal, Generalfeldmarschall,

                  plm with Oakleaves and Brilliants,
                  HOH2 with star and swords,
                  RAO1 with oakleaves and swords,
                  RAO2 with oakleaves and swords on 3 times white-striped ribbon
                  RAO3 or 4 with swords
                  KO2 with swords.

                  whole ranklist entry:
                  (SAOmBr, RAOGKElXRmKr, RAO1ElX, HOH1aXR, plm ElmBr, RAO2ElXs2, KO2X, HOH2aX, EK1 70, DA25, HEK1X, AB1X, BV2a, BH, BMJ2, BMV1, BrH1X, HG2b, MK1b, MMV1, OV1XRmgKr, OV1X, REK1mKr, SRK, SV1, SA2b, GSF1X, EH1X, SLVMX, SEK1XmBr, WMV1, WK1, FE3, JM1, JMOS1, USt1, ÖL1KD2, RAN, RG4, SSer, SS2b, SC1mK)

                  August Karl Friedrich Christian von der Groeben, General der Infanterie had:

                  Grand cross of the EK 1870
                  Plm with oakleaves,
                  HOH1 with swords
                  RAO1 with oakleaves and swords,
                  RAO2 with swords on 3 times white-striped ribbon
                  RAO4 with swords,
                  KO2 with swords

                  (SAO, RAOGKXR, RAO1ElX, RAO2aXR, RAO2Xs2, RAO4X, KO2X, HOH1X, HOH1aXR, plm El, EKGK 70, DA25, Düppel, Alsen, KDM70, 1866, 1864, 1848, BV3, B1848, SLVM, MMV2, ÖL1KD, OV1X, RG3, RG4, RSt2, SH2a, SC2a, SF1, SJ3, EH2a, WM1)

                  Ernst Kabisch, General der Infanterie had:

                  Plm
                  RAO2 with swords,
                  KO2 with star and swords
                  HOH2 with swords on 3 times white-striped ribbon
                  HOH3 with swords

                  Helmuth Karl Bernhard Graf von Moltke, Generalfeldmarschall, had:

                  Grand Cross EK 1870,
                  Plm Grand cross and star,
                  Plm with oakleaves, crown and Brilliants
                  Plm for arts and sciences (as the only one he held this unique plm combo)
                  RAO Grand cross with oakleaves and swords
                  KO1 with swords
                  HOH1 with star and swords

                  (SAOmBr, RAOGKElX, KO1X, HOH1aX, EKGK 70, plm GK, plm ElmKrmBr, plm KuW, MK1bX, BV1, EH1, WK1, SH1, MMV1, BMJ1, OV1XmgKr, GSF1, WM1, SMVM, HL1, BrHGKX, BT, HMV, AB1X)

                  Otto Julius Wilhelm Maximilian von Strubberg, General der Infanterie had:

                  Plm,
                  RAO4 with swords,
                  KO3 with swords,
                  HOH3 with swords

                  (VOPK, RAOGKXRmBr, plm, RAO4X, KO3X, HOH2aXR, HOH3X, EK1 70, DA25, HEK1, BZ1, LH1XmKr, MK1b, OV1, SA1, GSF1, EH1, WK1, JM1, ÖL1, RumSt1, RA1, SS4a, TM2)

                  As I browsed through my Generals list I found plenty of guys who held multiple Prussian Orders with swords (no wonder in all that wars) But one who had a Quartett of 4 different orders is really quite rare.

                  Best regards

                  Daniel

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                    #10
                    The Francis Marion of the German Empire. Had there been a few hundred more of this man, Germany would have won WWI.

                    Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by Brian S; 08-01-2003, 03:54 PM.

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                      #11
                      Hi Brian,

                      Have one to scan at home.
                      Will post it next days.

                      He did not held a Quartett, "just" a trio:

                      plm
                      KO2 with swords on 3 times white-striped ribbon
                      KO3 with swords
                      RAO4 with swords and crown.
                      NO HOH

                      Best regards

                      Daniel

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                        #12
                        Note that in that picture, from a rally of East Africa veterans I think, he is wearing his pre-war Ordensspange and the Iron Cross and Bremen Hanseatenkreuz are pinned on separately.

                        The rally in question was in Bremen, explaining the choice of that cross. I know for a fact that Bremen's was not the only WW1 state award he received:


                        (c) Bildarchiv DKG

                        I'm guessing Lübeck probably followed suit, too. Given his fame and the fact that he already had three Bavarian orders (Merit Order of St. Michael 3rd Class, MVO 4th Class with Swords, MVO 4th Class with Crown), I'd be surprised if he wasn't put in for an MMJO or at least a MVO Offizierskreuz. I'd be surprised also if Saxony, Baden and others didn't award something too. Anyone up for checking his various award rolls?

                        Other pictures from that rally:


                        (c) Bildarchiv DKG


                        (c) Bildarchiv DKG


                        (c) Bildarchiv DKG

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                          #13
                          Hi Dave,

                          I have a clear pic with his medal bar.
                          IMO in WW1 he got "just" the plm, KO2X, EK´s and the Bremen Hanseatic cross. As far as I know nothing else from the other German states. Unfortunately he left the Reichswehr too fast to be listed with all his WW1 awards in the Reichswehr ranklists.

                          Best regards

                          Daniel

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                            #14
                            As you can see in the one picture he did get the Hamburg Hanseatenkreuz. He also was awarded, according to O'Connor's research of the order rolls in Eutin, the Grand Commander's Cross with Swords and Laurel Wreath of the House and Merit Order of Duke Peter Frederick Louis of Oldenburg. This was awarded in 1919 and made retroactive to Nov. 6, 1919.

                            Dave

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                              #15
                              Yup! Of course! Also Hamburg hanseatic!
                              That oldenburg story is new for me. Never heard about that. That rare dec. should be mentioned somewhere. There are not soo much around.

                              Best regards

                              Daniel

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