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Or this one?pseudo-expert -
Well, since I'm ignorant about just about everything associated with these medals
, I'll just jump right in and say if I had unlimited funds, I'd buy both of these bars. Now I'm sure the experts will jump in and tell us all why I'm as ignorant as I believe I am, but they sure look nice to me 
. Since I don't have unlimited funds, I wouldn't touch either one because I just don't know enough to make an educated decision. The only thing I noticed was the EK2s seem to be done in the original style with the stitching around the upper arm to keep it from swinging around all the time.
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A little bit of Japanese there? Interesting ....
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I was told by a fellow forum member that the austrian bar is questionable. The bar with the jap medal is a possible combination and makes sense, but totally untraceable as it is an EM bar.Imperial German Medalbars and RibbonbarsComment
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The problem I have withe the Austrian bar is the lack of trifol ribbons and a German WWI Iron Cross in the dominate position. To the Austrians the Iron Cross was a foreign award and would be last here. But???????????????????Comment
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Originally posted by Jim Woods View Post
Well, this bar should be an austrian officers bar post-19138 when austria became part of the 3rd Reich - that explains the german mounting and the IC2 on 1st position. a lot of bars sold by this special seller via ebay are and were questionable. but to be honest i would buy this one. it looks the way it should be.
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I have to agree with Haynau. These bars have far more going for them than not. The ribbons, backs, pins, thread tacking on the back cloth and medals - they all speak authentic. Given the Austrian and Hungarian service medals there, a late 30s or later bar for certain, even if all Imperial.
In my opinion, those are beauties Don. SteveComment
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They are beautiful, but I have two questions:
1. Do I count three Sls altogether in #1?
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2. is that a tarnished silver FA medal or a bronze?
RE: #2 would possibly be tracable in the OA or the Diplomatic Gotha? The Japanese medal I know nothing about..is that commonly awarded as a merit medal?Comment
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I love it!!!!A little bit of Japanese there? Interesting ....
I am not expert but I love Imperial medal bars with foreign awards!!!Comment
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the last japenese award is the order of the rising sun! looks like the 8th class(the lowest rank)the guy would have had to have done something in with the foerign serivce to get it! intersting!!!!
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maybe someone should put the bar with the rising sun 8th class in the japanese section of the WAF. as far as i know the experts can date the medal from the kanji (inscription) on the backside of the medal. if it turns out to be a post 1945-style we know the bar is a put-together.
regards
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Thanks for all the replies. At first glance I thought they were too good to be true and the reverse stitching appears to be the same (almost from the same hand so to speak) which scares me....pseudo-expertComment
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That appears to be a bronze Friedrich August Medal, which would be inappropriate for someone with the seniority represented by the other decorations.Comment
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I don't know...I don't know....I don't...
The more I look at these the more ambivalent I am.
As the others above said they show great construction, patina etc. etc..
The Austrian one appears awesome. However, that's what frightens me a little. This guy, with no LS medals and a post 1938 medal order was probably the bravest man i have ever seen as a jr. officer: Three SLs AND a large silver bravery medal-yet no LS medals means war time enlistee. I mean if I saw a contemporary (mid 1940s) US medal bar with a DFC and 3 bronze stars I would think long and hard about it.
The bottom one is really unusual-not totally impossible, but really, really unusual and that's worrying. I mean a Bronze FA for Africa-or even more unlikely-as a civil servant/1914 mariner? No clasp on the colonial medal implies navy or merchant marine (which is what i was thinking...but how would he get a sacred treasure 8th-embassy staff? chauffer? merchant marine/ navy training in the 1920s/early 1930s? How did he ever get the Austrian merit cross-?The AEZ implies either a civil servant with 15 years + time in, a really unusual event OR an NCO with @ 15 years time in (+)...but no 15 year LS cross and a bronze FAM???
However, I am certain I have seen it before. Indeed, wasn't there a ribbon bar query not too long ago about a similar ribbon bar?
I think this is one to post for review by the doyons at the gmic. forum. It's waaaaay beyond me.
I am at the point now where almost ANY foreign decoration at the end of a bar is a "look really close at this thing" signal. See here-look at the other items & history for an education.
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