"Pocket" EK 2?

[AUSGANG]

This item is on Ebay at the moment; beyond my means right now ! Can some one give me information on this odd pinback? I've never seen one on this forum and I am very intrigued. If I can't buy it, at least I can learn about it! Here's the listing #!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

[AUSGANG]

Hallmark

Hallmark

[Steve Campbell]

That's an AWS "pillowback". They were a unique variation to this maker, Alfred Werner and Son. They also made standard flat back crosses. This pillowback is also found in screwback form.

[gregM]

All brass framed AWS screwback

[Steve Campbell]

All brass framed AWS screwback

Greg, is your screwback missing the washer?

[gregM]

Yes it is
You wouldn't possibly have one I could buy?

[Steve Campbell]

Sorry Greg. The reason I asked is because I have a similar 3 piece pillowback on the way and it too has no washer. I think our chances of finding not one but two are pretty slim. It's still nice though.

[AUSGANG]

Why was it manufatured with a "pillow back" and not a regular flat back??

[gregM]

Good question-----I am not sure that anyone knows the answer
to that.

[Steve Campbell]

As a private purchase piece it could have ben a way to make it stand out from other crosses. Here's my AWS with the conventional rear.

[Steve Campbell]

The rear showing that this maker used both types of backs.

[Jesse]

Wow Gregg and Steve, I love those brass EK's, I had no idea this maker made this variation in brass, fantastic, I am seriously jealous!

Jess

[Steve Campbell]

Actually mine's not brass. It's an iron core, 3 piece construction, marked for 925 silver on the rear. The one I have coming is also a 3 piece iron core, but looks to have a tomback frame. There are a pile of variations to Imperial crosses, not just those by AWS.

[Jesse]

Hi Steve, yep, I collect variations, or specifically non magnetic, preferably brass EK's. Can you post pictures of the tomback frame when it arrives?

J

[Steve Campbell]

I will when I get it next week. A buddy is bringing up a few new items that have arrived home while I am working away. In the meantime, here's an interesting one piece all brass variant to hold you over.