WW1 Units info

[David B]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any info on these two WW1 units: Inf. Rgt. 103 and Inf. Rgt. 182

Thanks

[Rick Research]

Saxon Inf Rgt 103 remained with the Saxon 32nd Infantry Division throughout the entire war--

1914: Belgium, Marne, Champagne to July 1915
1915: Aisne on quiet sector until end of June 1916
1916: Somme-- heavy losses July-September, refitted, and back to the Somme until March 1917
1917: Champagne, Flanders, Ypres
1918: heavy action on the Lys, quiet summer along the Woevre, then ground to bits along the Meuse in October

Saxon Inf Rgt 182 on the other hand moved about constantly, in and out of saxon divisions--

Saxon 23 Inf Div to April 1915: Belgium, Marne, Aisne
123 Inf Div April 1915-October 1916: Champagne, Artois, Flanders, on the Somme between July 5-22 the division lost 6,000 casualties so the survivors were sent to Russia to refit
216 Inf Div October 1916 to August 1917: Galicia, Rumania
Saxon 212 Inf Div August 1917 to end of war: Rumania (heavy losses September 1917), then into the Ukraine 1918

[David B]

Thanks Rick!

I know that between 6.8.14 and 20.6.19 he served with 103 and 182 (sorry - I don't have the date for each unit.)

What Im really trying to find out would be where/what operation he won the EK 2 in. I know he won it on the 8.11.17.

Do you know of any specific actions around this time for either unit?

Many thanks!

[Rick Research]

Ooo, must know which regiment he was in since they were on different fronts!!!

[David B]

Ah, this may be a problem - If it doesn't take to much work for you, could you tell me what each unit was doing at the time (8.11.17)?
Thanks

[Frosch]

Rick: source?

Rick,

Was the source you used for the above information taken from "History of 251 German divisions ..."?

If not, where did it come from?

Thanks for any information in advance,

David

[Rick Research]

Yes, for general first passes through I use "251 Divisions" because my "Schlachten und Gefechte" is too fragile and brittle to flip casually without SPECIFIC and significant reason to. Pieces of the cheap brown paper pages flake off literally every time I handle it, and it can only be opened in a "V" shape to read.

"251" can be vague about when a specific regiment transferred from one division to another, but divisional OOB is not my focus. When I have an award document to check etc, I go with "SuG" if "251" isn't specific enough.

[Frosch]

Bedankt

Rick,

Thanks for that. Although it may have a few contemporary intel errors, the 251 divisions book is definitely on my list of future acquisitions.

So many books, so little time and shelf space!

ttfn,

David

[McCulloh]

I understand that 251 Divisions had a number of substantial errors in it. Can anybody commet as to what these might be?
Thanks.
JeMc

[AOK4]

Hello,

There are some big errors in it, which is normal: it was book made by the allied intelligence from what spies or prisoners told them.

That's why you have to check the things you found in it the book.

Jan

[JensF.]

Does anyone have these informations about the following units?

Kgl. Sächs. 3. Infanterie-Regiment König Ludwig III von Bayern Nr.102

Kgl. Bayer. 4. Infanterie-Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg

Thanks a lot!

[Frosch]

Unit info

Jens,

The following information was taken from "Ruhmeshalle der alten Armee" and Reichsarchiv Volume 15. There may be gaps in the timelines due to the fact that Ruhmeshalle only gives divisional composition information at the time of mobilisation or when the division was raised, and for one other date later in the war.

Kgl. Sächs. 3. Infanterie-Regiment König Ludwig III von Bayern Nr.102 was established on 14 June 1709, Standort Zittau.

The regiment was part of 63. Infanterie-Brigade, 32. Infanterie-Division from 1914 to 1918.

32. Infanterie-Division engagements (overview only):

23.-24.08.1914 Schlacht bei Dinant
24.-27.08.1914 Eingreifen der 3. Armee in den Kampf der 2. Armee bei Namur in Richtung Mettet-Philippeville und anschließende Verfolgung in südwestlicher und südlicher Richtung bis an die Sormonne
27.-30.08.1914 Schlacht an der Maas und Verfolgung bis an die Aisne
31.08.-05.09.1914 Schlacht an der Aisne und Verfolgung bis über die Marne
06.-10.09.1914 Schlacht bei Fére-Champenoise
15.-22.09.1914 Schlacht bei Juvincourt
23.09.1914-12.09.1916 Kämpfe an der Aisne
27.09.-01.11.1916 Kämpfe im Argonner Wald
15.-25.11.1916 Schlacht an der Somme
27.11.1916-15.03.1917 Stellungskämpfe an der Somme
16.-19.03.1917 Kämpfe vor der Siegfriedfront
19.03.-16.04.1917 Reserve der O.H.L.
03.05.-10.06.1917 Stellungskämpfe in der Champagne
26.08.-05.11.1917 Schlacht in Flandern
05.11.1917-08.04.1918 Stellungskämpfe in Flandern
09.-12.04.1918 Schlacht bei Armentières
15.-29.04.1918 Schlacht um den Kemmel
30.04.-01.07.1918 Stellungskrieg in Flandern
11.07.-25.09.1918 Stellungskämpfe vor Verdun
26.09.-11.11.1918 Abwehrschlacht an der Maas
12.11.-28.12.1918 Räumung des besetzten Gebietes und Marsch in die Heimat

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Kgl. Bayer. 4. Infanterie-Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg was established on 1 April 1706, Standort Metz. On mobilisation the regiment was part of 33. I.D. and seems to have joined the new 14. bayr. I.D. when it was established some time in August before the fighting at Verdun. The regiment was under the command of the following officers from the dates given:

02.08.1914 Oberst Ritter von Kleinhenz
29.09.1916 Major Hoderlein
23.04.1917 Oberstlt. Lindner
14.02.1918 Major Killermann
02.09.1918 Oberstlt. Ritter von Lenz
12.10.1918 bis Ende Major Probstmayr


Part of 8. bayerische Infanterie-Brigade, 33. Reserve-Division (Hauptreserve Metz, Kriegsgliederung bei Mobilmachung) on mobilisation in August 1914.

33. Reserve-Division engagements (overview only):

22.-27.08.1914 Schlacht bei Longwy-Longuyon und am Othain-Abschnitt
28.08.-01.09.1914 Schlacht um die Maasübergänge
02.-03.09.1914 Schlacht bei Varennes-Montfaucon
04.-05.09.1914 Verfolgung westlich Verdun und durch die Argonnen
06.-12.09.1914 Schlacht bei Vaubecourt-Fleury
17.-24.09.1914 Schlacht bei Varennes
25.09.1914-08.08.1916 Kampf im Argonner Walde


Part of 8. bayerische Infanterie-Brigade, 14. bayerische Infanterie-Division (established 11 August 1916, Kriegsgliederung 26 August 1916) at least from the end of August 1916.

14. bayerische Infanterie-Division engagements (overview only):

13.08.-09.09.1916 Schlacht bei Verdun (Chapitre-Wald, Souville-Nase, Souville-Schlucht)
10.-30.09.1916 Stellungskämpfe vor Verdun
06.10.-01.11.1916 Stellungskämpfe zwischen Maas und Mosel
02.-14.11.1916 Reserve der O.H.L.
27.11.1916-15.03.1917 Stellungskämpfe an der Somme
16.-18.03.1917 Kämpfe vor der Siegfriedfont
25.03.-01.04.1917 Stellungskämpfe im Artois
02.-11.04.1917 Frühjahrsschlacht bei Arras
11.-26.04.1917 Reserve der 4. Armee
26.-30.04.1917 Transport nach dem Osten
03.05.-20.08.1917 Stellungskämpfe an der oberen Schtschara-Serwetsch
01.-05.09.1917 Schlacht um Riga
06.-11.09.1917 Stellungskämpfe nördlich der Düna
21.-23.09.1917 Erstürmung des Brückenkopfes von Jakobstadt
06.10.-07.12.1917 Stellungskämpfe am Sereth
07.-17.12.1917 Waffenruhe
17.-25.12.1917 Transport nach dem Westen
25.12.1917-13.01.1918 Ausbildung
14.01.-23.04.1918 Stellungskämpfe bei Reims
04.05.-07.08.1918 Kämpfe an der Ancre, Somme und Avre
08.-10.08.1918 Abwehrschlacht zwischen Somme und Avre
22.08.-02.09.1918 Schlacht Albert-Péronne
15.09.1918 Aufgelöst
06.-25.11.1918 Divisionsstab: Grenzschutz in Bayern

Sorry about the strange formatting, but I pasted the text from an editor.

Trust this is the sort of thing you are looking for. I am sure someone else will have a lot more information, but that is all I have for the time being.

All the best,

David

[JensF.]

MANY THANKS for these informations David!!!

[Frosch]

Commanders names added

Bringing this back up to the top for Jens.

I have just added the names of the commanders of Kgl. Bayer. 4. Infanterie-Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg to the post above.

This addititonal info was taken from das Bayernbuch, a 2-volume mine of information that will help plug some gaps until I get more specific Bavarian regimental histories.

Incidentally, I have a 1914-1918 history of Kgl. Bayer. 17. Infanterie-Regiment Orff, if the information contained in that is of use to anyone.

/David