Gentlemen: I have been following ebay for several weeks and noticed what I would consider High End Imperial German decorations. In particular a Pour le Merite, Black Eagle Order collar, Red Eagle Order, Star to the Prussian Order of the Crown and others. I, for one, would like to know some opinions on these decorations. I have my own ideas but I have not seen any discussion on these items on the forum. I do not want to slam the sellers but I would like to learn as much as possible about these items from those who know more than I. Is anyone watching ebay as they do in the WW II German area? I always enjoy the acquisition of knowledge but somehow it seems we have missed the boat. If anyone has view these items, especially the Black Eagle Collar, I would appreciate any information.
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Hi oak-leave,
so please post a pic and we will see if somebody knows something.
In general I thing that real high end stuff wound hardly turn up at eBay but nothing is impossible.
Best regards
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High end Imperial Decorations
Gentlemen: Currently a Black eagle collar is for sale on ebay. Ebay item number 3603189290 along with other decorations. A few days ago I saw a Pour le merite sell for over $2000.00 which I had by doubts about. But no discussion had been made about any of these items. I want to learn more. Please advise.Comment
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High End German Decorations
Gentlemen: Please reply as I am no expert and value each and every one's opinion. I believe there are many items available to us but without the sharing of knowledge we all are "wondering in the dark." Since I have dealt in other areas where "knowledge is power" and no one would share what they kney, I can understand but perhaps it is different in the field of Imperial Medal collecting.Comment
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High End German Decorations
Gentlemen: Based on the amount of interest this thread is receiving. I hope someone will provide information on this topic. It seems this thread is getting a hit about every 20 seconds. Please help us out.Comment
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Hello oak-leaf,
I watch several of the items you mentioned as well as items in most of the major auctions in Europe and the States. In all of these sources there are original items and reproductions. Most sale/auction houses put items out for sale and allow the buyer or potential buyer to make the decision as to originality (note how many items are not declared 'original'). If not satisfied, most will refund your money. But not all. Many bad items are sold and don't come back but begin a journey on to other souls.. But anyway, you must edify yourself on production, manufacture and try to handle as many original and reproduction items as you can. After 34 years in Imperial German collecting, I observe many items for sale, including ebay, which are obvious reproductions/fakes but which trusting souls or those too tempted by a "good deal" cannot resist throwing money at. The saying "if it's too good to be true then it likely isn't" is valid. I remember the good old days when Imperial German was cheap and unwanted. I picked up numerous good deals. I wish I could still find such but that is a fool's dream. Dealers are faced with their problems. Availability of new merchndise, at prices that have a chance to sell, is becoming limited. This pushes up prices and also tempts many to include fakes and reproductions into their wares. Of course there are some of the "big dealers/grand poohbahs" who really don't know as much about the items as they and their followers believe. So there you are, you are the final decision maker on any given item. My advice is to be aware and beware. It's getting really frosty out there!Comment
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A real problem
I agree that one of the best ways to educate yourself is to handle real and reproduction decorations. The problem that comes to mind is where can you find such high end decorations, expecially in the good old USA. Imperial German collecting in the US is just not that big when compared to Third Reich, in my opinion. The best advise I can give is to buy from the most honest dealers and someone you can trust.Imperial German Medalbars and RibbonbarsComment
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Most of us are "3 figure" collectors.
I would NEVER buy "high end" items off of eBay.
That basically explains the lack of interest here in such seller unknown For Sale as is items-- there is so astonishingly much we mere mortals CAN and MIGHT find... and be able to afford.
Even if by some miracle a specific major treasure showed up-- at major treasure prices-- nobody I know who is online has handled such stuff. Well, Werner maybe.
Or Stogie-Rick before he entered the monastery on that rock-bound island. 
My have-everything gurus are very much offline.Comment
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High End Imperial Medals
Gentlemen: I want to thank you all for your sound advice. I have learned a great deal and that is one of most interesting parts of collecting.Comment
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for Oak-Leaf
I looked at these items. Interesting that most of them have ended, but not re-listed as of yesterday. I will not comment on the Black-Eagle Collar. However, both the stars appear quite real and correct to me, having owned examples of these orders/class in the past. The PCO Breast Stars (both 1/2. kl.) came unmarked. Construction techniques, quality and some other points are consistent with original items I have handled in the past.Comment
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Hi Guys,
just my 2 cent.
I´ve SEEN some original BEO collars.
This one is in the best case a "museums copy"
The 2 stars BEO and Crown order need proper inspection.
The 2 crosses look o.k. from the distance.
Best regards
DanielComment
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