Fakes EK 1914

[mr d]

Does it exist many EK 1914 fakes? I have heard there aren't many fakes to this award, but am I wrong?
Regards,

Mr D

[Bill M]

--Sure there are fakes, but not nearly in the same numbers as the `39's.
--Do you have one that you think might be fake, or are you looking for one and want to know your chances of getting a good piece?

[mr d]

No, I don't have one- just interested. But if I am going to buy one in the future (hopefully) I would be glad to know what the prices for the different EKs from WW1 are?

mr D

[Bill M]

--The price depends upon the condition, maker, quality, and attachment method used. They can run from $90 to upwards of $200 depending upon these qualities, sorta like grading a diamond.

[rkoy]

i need a wwI ek first class that was made in the period not a replacement i cant tell the differences between a 39 frame and wwi frame. anybody know of one for sale or some help on ID on the frames thanks rkoy

[Bill M]

--WW2 crosses are simply stockier, thicker than 1914's. The WW1 crosses have more slender, tapering arms.
--Detlev Niemann, for one, usually specifies on his site whether they are period or WW2 era issues. He's got one up for around $90, take a look, otherwise check out his friday updates, he usually has one or two.

[rkoy]

thganks bill so a wwi should be close to the shinkle(spelling????????????) size ek

[Rick Research]

Yes, the old WWIs are always smaller than the 1939 size. I can send you jpeg attachments of 2nd Classes for comparison of both types of 1914 (my Forum scan space is full and must be purged before new postings).

Also, 1914 EK 1sts are ALMOST always in real silver, whether marked or not, while the WW2 period restrikes almost never are, usually alloy instead. A mark like 800 or 900 or KO or any of the other Imperial makers will indicate pre-Third Reich manufacture. Most, but not all, of the Third Reich ones have an "L" number maker code, because obviously they were not awarded pieces, but instead had to be bought by recipients as duplicates. Many of the Third Reich restrikes were the same size as the WWI issues, but they are lighter and cheaper.
Rick

[rkoy]

hi rick yes if you could send me those jpegs that would be great, im trying to complete my iron cross collection,well except for the RK which ill have to win the lotto to buy, and i want to get wwi ek that are period not later versions thanks rodney koy