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    medal bar and its ribbon,i need help

    hi rick,you seem to be the guy to ask about medal bars so i was wondering if you could help me find out what these medals are,iv checked out the ribbon chart but its all in german so could you help me!
    well here goes
    its 5 ribbon bar the 1st is the iron cross 2nd class the 2nd is themilitarischer karl friedrich verdienstorden oder medaille ful verdienete in folde or number 63 on the chart
    the 3rd is the cross of honour with swords
    the 4th is the rotes krez or number 48 on the chart
    the 5th is the ungarishe weltriegs erinnerungsiuedille with swords or number 30 on the chart
    any help tthat anyone could give me would be great
    cheers and rick i love the stuff you are doing on the soviet stuff cos im very big into that at the moment to
    cheers

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    Dear sir/m'am ("stg 43/44?" And what would yer be when yer's at home, then? From a tri-corner Waterford/Kilkenny/Tipperary far flung 3rd generation clump off the Auld Sod...)

    This is an interesting ribbon bar you have found. If there is no device on the second ribbon, then it would be for the Silver Merit Medal on the Military-Karl-Friedrich-Merit-Order general purpose "war" ribbon. That medal was given to enlisted men and noncommissioned officers, but since there is no long service ribbon, the owner was probably a junior wartime NCO.

    The 4th ribbon is the Prussian Red Cross Medal of 1898-1920. When only one ribbon is worn it shows the third class (bronze pre-WWI, zinc 1915 on). Before the war this medal was given more for donations etc type services than for actual "medical" related help, but during the war, the RCM3 is a fairly good sign this man was a medical corpsman--and for this award, probably more likely then on a hospital staff than at the front. Baden had similar War Effort awards, so award of the Prussian Red Cross Medal is a bit unusual to a junior non-Prussian enlisted man.

    The Hungarian WWI Commemorative Medal could be bestowed on ANY German who applied for it, regardless of whether they actually served on the Eastern Front or not.

    One thing about ribbon bars--it tells you that this man was wearing SOME sort of a uniform circa 1935. Any clues from the cloth backing? Rick

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      hi rick thanks for the reply (i use stg43 on another computer)
      there isnt any real clue from the backing,
      hmmm so he could have been a german in the medical corps or something like that???
      i dont have a scanner so i cant get pictures just at the moment,but do you reckon that this guy could well have been fighting on the eastern front or something?
      im a born and bread(?) dubliner but my grandad is from cork and my granny is from the north,do you have any relations yourself???
      well thanks again and i have a few more imperial medal button things i love if you could tell me about
      thanks again

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