1870 Ek Ii

[ccmax]

Hello,

What is your opinion on this 1870 EK II?? The rim and suspension look like later models to me. Note how the 1870 date is off center; could this be a later issue that was goofed up by a faker?
Thanks,
Cesar.

[ccmax]

Here are more pics.


http://www.datazap.net/free/ccmax45/1870b.jpg

[Greg S]

I would have to say nope! This just doesn't have the quality of an 1870 EKII. It looks like some of the fakes I have seen in EK's. Is that frosting I see as well on the beading?

[George Stimson]

Nope

I think this bad guy -- the ultra-rare "187" EK2 -- has been posted here before....

George

[Dez H]

Sorry but this is a fake, the easiest way to detect this is the core is too large for the frames, if you do a search though the past threads you should dig up more of these. 1870 EKs were always of very high quality.


Regards
Dez

[Doug See]

I agree---a fake. Beware of 1870 and 1913 EKI's made with same core and frame. Anyone remember ColtAuto? He tried to pawn the EK1 versions off on eBay and Epier as original.

[ccmax]

Greg:
Yes, that is frosting, I don't have the medal with me but I recall some details.
Thanks again fellows.

[JensF.]

Could it be that this cross has got a relly thick and fat grooved frame?

[ccmax]

The frame looks very much like a WWII EK II.

[Dez H]

This unscrupulous faker is probably using the same frame set to churn out fake 1939 EKs as well.


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Regards
Dez