1870 Godet EK1

[AtlantaWalter]

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What all is wrong with this medal?
Thanks for the assist. It just doesn't look right to me. Did Godet mm their medals with full name "Godet" or just a "G"?

[non-soli-cedit]

hell
it is a copy!
greetings
rene

[Vadim K]

What all is wrong with this medal?

Everything.

This seller seems to have a bucket of them or it is the same cross that keeps getting returned, check out this thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=muffin

[AtlantaWalter]

Specific faults please

Everything.

This seller seems to have a bucket of them or it is the same cross that keeps getting returned, check out this thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=muffin

Suppose the seller did have 2 or even 3 of these medals. What I need to know as a new collector is what in particular is wrong with the medal? What sticks out to you experienced guys and tells you it is a fake?

Thanks

[non-soli-cedit]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...544535197&rd=1

What all is wrong with this medal?
Thanks for the assist. It just doesn't look right to me. Did Godet mm their medals with full name "Godet" or just a "G"?

hello
godet mark with "godet" and with "G" both is possible!
the neddle and the block is terrible! the original has a round needle !when you look to the front of the cross the crown do not look like an original !!!and original crosses was made with high carbon iron and look other!
greetings
rene

[Peter Wiking]

Suppose the seller did have 2 or even 3 of these medals. What I need to know as a new collector is what in particular is wrong with the medal? What sticks out to you experienced guys and tells you it is a fake?

Thanks

The shape of the crown is wrong to start with. Start by investing in a good book on the Iron Cross. This is a known reproduction. I have seen many of this type of reproduction at Ebay.

Cheers.
Peter

[Biro]

Did Godet mm their medals with full name "Godet" or just a "G"?

My 1870 EK1 is marked with the full 'GODET' mark.

1914 Ek1's can be found with 'G' marks ...... but I have never seen an 1870 'G' marked piece that is good - this one included!

Marshall

[non-soli-cedit]

My 1870 EK1 is marked with the full 'GODET' mark.

1914 Ek1's can be found with 'G' marks ...... but I have never seen an 1870 'G' marked piece that is good - this one included!

Marshall

hello marschall!
he hasright only1914godet has the marks G!
greetings
rene

[AtlantaWalter]

Thanks for the pointers guys. It's rough being a newbie and not knowing what exactly to look for.

[Tiger 1]

hello
the original has a round needle !and original crosses was made with high carbon iron and look other!
greetings
rene

Hello Rene,

I would like to see an original Godet EKI with a round needle. Also adding carbon to iron makes it steel. How would one test for the carbon content of steel or 'high carbon iron' without damaging the cross?

Just curious. Thanks!

Tony

[Doug See]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...544535197&rd=1

What all is wrong with this medal?
Thanks for the assist. It just doesn't look right to me. Did Godet mm their medals with full name "Godet" or just a "G"?

Well, for one thing, AtlantaWalter, dedub67 sells them which should tell you something. Pieces of History in Cave Creek AZ also sells them. To be specific, it's a piece of junk, sold on eBay by scavengers. Hope that helps, Renee or Jim.

[gregM]

Here is another one just like it. The sellers name is "militaryaction"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...544066860&rd=1

[Doug See]

Here's how 1870 Godet's are marked:

[Doug See]

closer:

[AtlantaWalter]

Thanks, appreciate the info. I had absolutely no idea that fakes were so common in the militaria market. I just got and started reading Soldat's " The reproductions-the posrwar years" and it is indeed an eye-opener. I think I'll stick with 1939 Iron Crosses and learn as much about them as I can. I also now look upon EBay as a great place to learn about fakes; it's just a shame there are not more and better pics of the stuff they are selling.
Thanks again
WALTER