Ribbon bar with nice EK1 device

[JensF.]

Silver plated brass.

[JensF.]

Back with "feldgrau" paint and "D.R.P." = Deutsches Reichs-Patent:

[Rick Research]

These don't indicate an EK1, they are just a WEIRD "fashion statement." Extremely popular in Saxony well into the 1930s.

I suspect they MAY have slid into Naughty Usage before the war ended-- they were certainly around by early in 1919, and not just in Saxony. I've got a photo of an ordinary private from near Hamburg wearing one in 1919 (it's too crappy to scan though).

There was no point to these! What is especially WEIRD is that those Saxons should have held on so tenaciously to this superfluous emblem, while never getting around to anything USEFUL which would have distinguished their two Friedrich August MJedals, or the St henry Order and its two medals, each worn on plain "same" ribbons!

[George Stimson]

Nice little bar!

Here's a plain one with a "DRGM" mark on the reverse.





George

[JensF.]

Got another one with a bavarian MVK 1 w/X and crown. Interesting EK which shows the back and seems to be some kind of lapel-pin which was changed to work as a ribbon-device.

[JensF.]

Back with "DRGM 651496":

[AOK4]

I've got a picture somewhere of a soldier wearing a ribbon with EK device during WW1.

Jan

[Rick Research]

Jens!!!!!

That's an 1813 mini, na?????

BTW, working through Stogie-Rick's photos, I came across one DATED May 1918 with a Feldwebelleutnant wearing the mini device, so we can now say definitively that these DID exist during the war!

[JensF.]

Yes, the 1813 is strange. Maybe the owner hasn't found another device?!? Any opinions about the MVK? Should be a 1st class.

[Daniel Krause]

Hi Jens,

the EK device is odd!
The Bavarian can easily be a MVK 3 with crown and swords. People loved to "upgrade" their stuff with a bit more gold instead of the unspectacular bronce. For a MVK 1st (Feldwebelleutnant level) I would expect a bit more on that bar ( long service award......jubilee....)

Best regards

Daniel

[JensF.]

Schade...

[Daniel Krause]

Nööö, warum?

This mini EK device is TYPICAL for Saxon bars but not at all for other German states, so it is still an small but nice find!

Beste Grüße
Daniel

[JensF.]

Na, weil ein MVK 1 mit X und Kr doch viiiiiel schöner.......