Is this a Freikorps buckle?

[Ron C.]

I have been told it was, but nothing more. Is it, and what else can you tell me about it, i.e. what unit or how common it is?

Thanks,
Ron

[Tora_Tora_Tora!]

Sounds to me more as a Der Stahlhelm Organization brass buckle.....but it is in different shape that the common ones....

[Sergeant 08]

Yes, I agree. Looks like Stahlhelmbund, no Freikorps. More about the Stahlhelmbund you can find here:

http://184.172.36.50/forums/showthread.php?t=520185

PS: Freikorps used the Imperial buckles from ww1 etc.

[Brian L.]

Yes, I agree. Looks like Stahlhelmbund, no Freikorps. More about the Stahlhelmbund you can find here:

http://184.172.36.50/forums/showthread.php?t=520185

PS: Freikorps used the Imperial buckles from ww1 etc.

This, I believe is the first pattern Stahlhelm buckle from the early 20s.

As far as I know, only 2 Freikorps had unit buckles: Schutztruppe Bug and Sturmabteilung Rossbach.

[Ron C.]

Thanks guys.

Ron

[wilhelm Saris]

bolewts58: I believe is the first pattern Stahlhelm buckle from the early 20s.

You can better say the early 1930's, as such a buckle type is included in a Steinhauer & Lück catalogue where also the SS and NSBO buckle and early FAD-buckles are shown. Not in the early 1920's! And we may all know when the FAD came into being (there was no FAD before 1932).
The buckle is one of the many Stahlhelm-variations!

[Brian L.]

bolewts58: I believe is the first pattern Stahlhelm buckle from the early 20s.

You can better say the early 1930's, as such a buckle type is included in a Steinhauer & Lück catalogue where also the SS and NSBO buckle and early FAD-buckles are shown. Not in the early 1920's! And we may all know when the FAD came into being (there was no FAD before 1932).
The buckle is one of the many Stahlhelm-variations!

I stand corrected. You're the Stahlhelm expert.

[wilhelm Saris]

Thanks for he compliment, but I am just "a cog in the wheel" and have some knowledge about the Stahlhelm-organization. Others are far more an expert than me! For example you in the field of Freikorps-organizations!

[Sergeant 08]

This, I believe is the first pattern Stahlhelm buckle from the early 20s.

As far as I know, only 2 Freikorps had unit buckles: Schutztruppe Bug and Sturmabteilung Rossbach.

I have never seen a Freikorps buckle. Do you have pictures of such buckles?

[wilhelm Saris]

Would like to see whatever buckle for any Freikorps. I think they most often did wear a double claw, or just old army buckles.
Early catalogues offers no specific Freikorps-buckles, but it was possible to have added any device one wanted, to be soldered onto a blanc!

[Brian L.]

I have never seen a Freikorps buckle. Do you have pictures of such buckles?

Schutztruppe Bug and Sturmabteilung Rossbach both had custom buckles. I have pics. I'll scan them later to show you.

[Brian L.]

Schutztruppe Bug and Sturmabteilung Rossbach buckles.

[Sergeant 08]

Schutztruppe Bug and Sturmabteilung Rossbach buckles.

Thanks for posting! Who wore it? Only a few members?

[Brian L.]

Thanks for posting! Who wore it? Only a few members?

I don't have any information on that. The next thing, of course is to find photos with these 2 buckles being worn.

[NortonI]

Bug, I never liked / trusted this buckle to be period, in the meaning of available to buy for members ot the Schutztruppe Bug. Looks too much like a badge added to an imperial buckle. Choice is yours.

Rossbach. No, not really. Thias is a buckle of the Schilljugend, the youth section of the FK Rossbach. Ingo Haake has this in his (very good) book, refered this to Schill Jugend music corps/band. This sounds good to me, but why shouldn't everybody in the Schilljugend wear it?