Unknown armshields - early Reichswehr?

[Sergeant 08]

Member wolfsbur has a question about the origin of these pieces.

Perhaps somebody can help him?

[Sergeant 08]

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[Brian L.]

The oakleaf is Abteilung Luttwitz/Generalkommando Lutwitz. But it's usually described as a collar badge. But, actually it makes some sense as a sleeve badge because I've only ever seen the single oakleaf and never a pair, which I alway thought meant that it was likely actually worn on the side of a hat.

The edelweiss is Freikorps Oberland.

But, I've never seen either of these on a sleeve oval like this. The ovals are similar to the type worn by Freikorps Gerth (attached) right through to the Reichswehr, and are also Reichswehr style. So, it's possible that they are a sort of Reichswehr tradition badge for these two Freikorps units.

[Sergeant 08]

FK Oberland.....or another possibility?

The Bavarian colors blue/white, the Edelweiß....is it possible, that it was worn by the Gebirgstruppe in the early Reichswehr?

[wolfsbur]

But, I've never seen either of these on a sleeve oval like this. (...) So, it's possible that they are a sort of Reichswehr tradition badge for these two Freikorps units.

Hello,

thanks for your answer and the informations! I´ve also never seen such a compilation before. They seem to be original and I hope, that somebody knows the solution.

I don´t think, that the edelweiss is from the Gebirgstruppe. Many members oft the Freikorps Oberland went into the Freikorps Epp and the following unit Schützenbrigade 21 in the Reichswehr. Perhaps, there was a group from Oberländern in there. Or it`s from the Schwarze Reichswehr.

Regards,
wolfsbur

[Brian L.]

I tend to think these are transitional badges rather than pure Reichswehr; so probably late 1919 to early 1920.

I also will stick to my assumption that the edelweiss is Oberland as it's a match to their Freikorps badge seen in photos and in Haarcke's book.

These are quite nice and I'd certainly like them in my collection.

[Fred Green]

Hello,

These appear to me to be officer regimental armshields from the transitional Reichswehr that have an emblem in place of the metal regimental number..

Fred