BeVo Stahlhelm cufftitle?

[Dmv]

An interesting Stahlhelm cufftitle on estand since it's a BEVO one.
Interesting since Bevo began producing around 1939 (? is what I read) and the Stahlhelm was disbanded in 1934-35...so what's the deal here?
Perhaps even post war made when the Stahlhelm was raised again in 1952?

[Sergeant 08]

Good question.....

[Brian L.]

Well, since I own it, I guess I'll comment, as well.

I have had the standard Nordmark cuff-title as well which is about half as wide as this one, is plain blue with yellow lettering done in a similar Jacquard weave, but not integrated into the cuff-title's weave pattern, as is the case with BeVo manufacture. The blue base of the standard cuff-title is a sized silk.

This one is quite elaborate in contrast, especially with the black edges and yellow stripes, as well as the overall size.

It's pure conjecture at this point. But, perhaps this was an unofficial "tradition" cuff-title worn by SA former members of LV Landmark. It had been one of the largest Stahlhelm membership districts. Similar types of 'tradition' insignia were worn in the SA, such as some Freikorps insignia such as the von Epp lion badge.

It could be post-war as well. That is a valid idea.

[Dmv]

Does it have synthetic (nylon/plastcs) threads? For the black border looks like synthetic...

[jabnus]

First one i ever see in this style. My first thought too was that it is a post war piece, maybe not even from the early post war days but much later? It seems much too different from the known cufftitles from before 34?

[Brian L.]

Does it have synthetic (nylon/plastcs) threads? For the black border looks like synthetic...

I'll black light it tomorrow when I get home and let you know. I'm traveling at the moment.

[Dmv]

I'll black light it tomorrow when I get home and let you know. I'm traveling at the moment.

Afraid to say, but blacklight might nor help...only with white threads.
A burn test would reveal more...

[Brian L.]

Afraid to say, but blacklight might nor help...only with white threads.
A burn test would reveal more...

I will show it to one of the teachers in the fashion dept. at my college and ask her what material it is. If there's a loose thread, I'll burn test it.

However, I'm almost positive it isn't synthetic. I actually think it's a silk and cotton blend. Another hobby of mine was collecting ethnic textiles. I learned a lot over the years about fabric manufacture, weaving, fabric types. etc.

So far, we've had conjecture. Nobody can say when it's from, other than likely post 1939, or exactly what it represents in terms of the Stahlhelm because it post-dates the dissolution. It still remains an anomaly.

I have no doubt it's genuine - but genuine what?

[Brian L.]

Well, I did a burn test and I would say that at least part of it is indeed nylon.

That would put it post 1935 (when nylon was invented) and thus after the dissolution of the original Stahlhelm, and post 1939, after the founding of BeVo, Wuppertal.

So, the assumption that it is from the 1951-60 Stahlhelm period is likely.

[Dmv]

agree, and certainly not less interesting because of it (likely) being postwar.
Although it would affect the price...
Thanks for doing the test!

[Sergeant 08]

agree, and certainly not less interesting because of it (likely) being postwar.

Yes, it is still an interesting piece.

[Dmv]

and just won it! You can sent it to me Brian

[chris clark]

very good thread this one and bolewts58 i admire your honesty and interest in the raised subject very much indeed it even had me puzzled so thanks to all for what we managed to find out