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    The KdA was a Political Organ Genossen, it saw the writing on the wall, it was also a purely defensive servant of the Peoples as part of a People's Democracy so it carried out its Combat Mission

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      Originally posted by Kozlov View Post

      These were the Party faithful having a little game of soldiers to fulfil their part as "armed agitators" in the Marxist-Leninist lexicon.
      Yes. That about sums it up. They should not be taken too seriously as a possible military force ... Cheers, Torsten.

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        Anti-Tank-Platoon of the Brandenburger Traktorenwerk.

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          This what a Kampfgruppen Waffenkarte looks like. Got a couple of other Kampfgruppen documents from the same man with the Waffenkarte.
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            Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
            This what a Kampfgruppen Waffenkarte looks like. Got a couple of other Kampfgruppen documents from the same man with the Waffenkarte.
            These Kampfgruppen items are part of a large lot of documents that are all from the same man. Cheers, Torsten.
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              Not sure, but I think that this graduation certificate from the Kampfgruppen College would have also earned him this KG commander badge .... Cheers, Torsten.
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                I posted an entry about the Kampfgruppen blog, I hope your comments to improve it.

                http://nvaspain.blogspot.com.es/2014...terklasse.html

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                  these came to light just today...something for the List
                  all 4 Regimental Flags are from Genthin...and 2 earlier,smaller KG Flags.
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                    among is this short Version Hundertschaft Flag..

                    next to the normal size flag the Emblem and Eichenlaub is more oval shaped
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                      List update

                      Originally posted by Thälmannpionier View Post
                      these came to light just today...something for the List
                      all 4 Regimental Flags are from Genthin...and 2 earlier, smaller KG Flags.
                      Hello Andreas:
                      Thanks for posting more nice KG wreath flag examples.
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                      Unit Number 153. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Genthin (Dup 77*)
                      Unit Number 209. Kampfgruppen-Zug Genthin (Dup list number 26*)
                      Unit Number (None) Kampfgruppen-Zug Genthin, with streamers

                      Unit Number 62. Kampfgruppen-Zug Genthin (maybe list 15?)
                      (*) Interesting to note repeated unit number use, still wonder why ???
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                      KG flag count at 120, plus some others...
                      .....................................................
                      03/19/14 List of Known Wreath KG unit flags
                      (Large wreath, lettering in upper left corner)
                      -------------------------------------------------
                      1. #5. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Cottbus, with document (source OFW)
                      2. #145. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Quedlindburg (*, eBay#1167945870)
                      3. #262. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strausberg (*Oliver book)
                      4. #34. Kampfgruppen-Zug (mot.) Strausberg (*Oliver Book)
                      5. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Forst (*= photo verified)
                      6. #?8. Kampfgruppen-Zug Teterow (*)
                      7. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Neuruppen (*)
                      8. #? Kampfgruppen-Bataillonshaft ?Niberode (*Oliver Book, pg 93) <-- ???
                      9. #64. Kampfgruppen-Zug Freital (*)
                      10. #206. Kampfgruppen-Zug Bautzen (*, & formerly DHH)
                      11. #1. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Berlin (*1983-KG books),
                      12. #107. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden (source DHH)
                      13. #155. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden (source DHH)
                      14. #203. Kampfgruppen-Zug Bautzen (source DHH)
                      15. #62. Kampfgruppen-Zug,?location? (*eBay #6132614203 Nov04)
                      15b. #62. Kampfgruppen-Zug Dresden, red Kurt Kuhles strmr+top, *Johan-D
                      16. #? Kampfgruppen-? ?location? (was on W-A Forum e-stand) <--- ???
                      17. #154 Kampfgruppen-Hundrertschaft Bautzen (*online auction)
                      ..... (with Kurt Pchalek red streamer & 7Oct1975 Green streamer)
                      18. #26. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rathenow, (*WA-Forum)
                      ..... (with Friedrich Engels 7 Oct 78 red streamer, & 7 Oct 74 Green).
                      19. #22. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Wolgast, (*WA-Forum)
                      ..... (with 66/68,80/82/85 red streamer, & 1 Mai. 1974 Green).
                      20. #50. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Mitte, (*WAF+DF)
                      21. #100. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin-Mitte, (*WAF+DF)
                      22. #12. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin -Treptow, (*WA-Forum)
                      23. #238. Kampfgruppen-Zug Zossen, (*WA-Forum)
                      24. #IV. Kampfgruppen-Battalion (mot.) Zossen, (*WA-Forum)
                      .....(with 7. Oktober 1975 green streamer)
                      25. #220. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strasburg, (*WA-Forum)
                      26. #209. Kampfgruppen-Zug Neubrandenburg, (*Gz-Forum)
                      ..... (with 07.10.1983 red streamer)
                      27. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hunderschaft Neubrandenburg, (*Gz-Forum)
                      ..... (with 07.10.1973 red streamer)
                      28. #219. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strasburg, (*Gz-Forum)
                      29. #223. Kampfgruppen-Zug Rostock, (*Gz-Forum)
                      30. #192. Kampfgruppen-Batterie (Flak) Rostock, (*WA-Forum)
                      31. (No#?) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Zittau, document only (")
                      32. #225. Kampfgruppen-Zug Reichenbach, (*GJ via eBay, now Bochum Museum)
                      33. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hunderschaft Reichenbach, (*WAF " )
                      34. #223 Kampfgruppen-Zug Reichenbach, (*eBay 299 Euros, OFW)
                      35. #143. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Freiberg, (*source GJ)
                      ..... (with 7.Okt1973 green, 978 BE red, BE66/68 red, Robert
                      ..... Siewert 1.Mai 1985 red streamer), 2/2/12 on eBay.de @ ~$678 USD
                      36. #151. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Bernau, (*CZ Auction 450 Euros)
                      37. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Forst (*& doc., 800 Euros)
                      38. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Cotbus (* 650 Euros)
                      39. II. Kampfgruppen-Battaillon (mot) Nordhausen, 7.Okt74 green, *1KE
                      40. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Herzberg, 01.05.80 red+top,(*1000 Euros)
                      ..... Source list #39/40 SG Auction Italy, as cited on WAF.
                      41. #156. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Rostock, ebay #320325417163*
                      42. #421. Kampfgruppen-Zug Schwerin, "170287455472*, 1Mai74 green
                      ..... streamer and Walter Griesbach Honor named 7Oct77 red streamer.
                      43. #4. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Prenzlauerberg+doc*J-D
                      44. #203. Kampfgruppen-Zug Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, Hans Janocha red*"
                      45. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Prenzlauerberg*"
                      46. #108. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, *Johan-D
                      47. #202. Kampfgruppen-Zug Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, *Johan-Dallasfan
                      48. #274. Kampfgruppen-Zug Wolgast, BE 85/87, Green 1Mai74, *"(J-D)
                      49. #205. Kampfgruppen-Zug Calau, Red-BE, Green 1Mai75, *Johan-D
                      50. #420. Kampfgruppen-Zug Gustrow, heavy cotton as all listed above.
                      51. #229. Kampfgruppen-Zug Oranienburg, *J-D
                      52. #160. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Oranienburg, *J-D
                      53. #II. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Oranienburg, *J-D
                      54. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Perleberg, BE-66/70/82, Bruno Schramm,
                      ..... & red 1Mai72 streamer + red cords, ebay 193 Euros, *GJ
                      55. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Hagenow, BE-72/76/78/80/82 + cords, "
                      56. #238. Kampfgruppen-Zug Weisswasser, sold for 170 Euros, *GJ.
                      57. #9. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rostock, 168 Euros, *GJ.
                      58. #119. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Reichenbach, *eBay 220354748711
                      ..... with pole top and trooping harness. 369 Euros min start bid. Now *DHH
                      59. #169. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Rugen, *eBay 300304111842
                      ..... with top, 7.Okt74 and other streamers, and 5 documents... *GJ
                      59a Kampfgruppenfahne an den 254. Kampfgruppenzug, 1. Mai 1976
                      59b Kampfgruppenfahne an den 276. Kampfgruppenzug, 07.10.1989
                      59c Kampfgruppenzug wird der Ehrenname "Kurt Bürger", unit #276
                      59d Kampfgruppenfahne an den 15. Kampfgruppenzug
                      59e Kampfgruppenfahne an die 169. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft
                      60. #21. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Karl-Marx-Stadt, *J-D
                      60b KDADDDP title flag in unit # large wreath pole slip pattern, *J-D
                      61. #270. Kampfgruppen-Zug Niesky, old catalog sale entry, *J-D
                      62. #412. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Deutsche Reichbann Fahr-
                      ..... komplex Mukran, old catalog sale entry, *J-D, IMO best so far!
                      63. #280. Kampfgruppen-Zug Riesa, *WAF member GD
                      64. #9. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rostock, "
                      65. #264. Kampfgruppen-Zug Dresden, "
                      66. #156. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Neubrandenburg, Horst Jonas, "
                      67. #275. Kampfgruppen-Zug Wolgast, Fahnenbänder: "Karl Kießling
                      dated 1. Mai 1986" (red) u. "7. Okt. 1974" (green), Berlin Auctionhaus
                      68. #201. Kampfgruppen-Zug Brandenburg, *GJ, eBay #360241380385
                      69. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Possneck, *GJ, on pole, no top.
                      70. #19. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.)Dresden, red Otto Galle strmr,
                      ..... plus 01.05.77 and 01.05.79 KG Award & Bestenheit strmrs, *Johan-D
                      71. #113. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden, 1Mai75 document, **"
                      72. #214. Kampfgruppen-Zug Dresden, 1Mai74 document, **Johan-D
                      73. #215. Kampfgruppen-Zug Dresden, 1Mai74 document, **Johan-D
                      74. #171. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden. 1Mai84 doc, **Johan-D
                      75. #175. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden, 1Mai85 Erwin Kramer
                      ..... unit honor title award document, (**=no flag photo), **Johan-D.
                      75p. #175. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden, sold 150 euros, *JM
                      76. #67. Kampfgruppen-Zug Zwickau, unsold on eBay, *JM
                      77. #153. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Delitzsch, numbers gone, *JM p369
                      78. #37. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Schwarzenberg, $340, top +3
                      ..... red & 1 green streamer: BH78/78/8_, 78 Paul Gunther, 82/85/73, 74 *JM
                      79. #214. Kampfgruppen-Zug Haldensleben, top+cord & green streamer 75, *JM
                      80. #157. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Nauen, *JM, eBay.de 450 Euros,
                      81. #210. Kampfgruppen-Zug Delitzsch, (added numbers?), 101 Euros, *JM
                      82. #135. Kampfgruppen-Zug Delitzsch, (added numbers?), *JM
                      83. #288. Kampfgruppen-Zug Sebnitz, & red streamer Walter Zirnstein
                      ..... dated 7 Okt.1974, (sold on eBay.de for 59 euros) *Johan-D,
                      84. #50. Kampfgruppen Hundertschaft (mot.) Rostock, 202 Euros, *JM
                      85. #410. Kampfgruppen Hundertschaft Greifswald, 190 Euros, *JM
                      86. #3. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Wismar, *JM
                      87. #151. (glued) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Calau, with 4 streamers
                      ..... 1. Mai 1976 green, "Verdienstmedaille der KG in silber" 7.10.1988,
                      ..... named "Heinz Rößiger" 1. Oktober 1987, & "Beste Einheit", *JM
                      88. #236. (glued) Kampfgruppen-Zug Weisswasser, 120x170cm, *JM
                      89. #152. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Brandenburg, ~$206.53 *JM
                      90. #1. Kampfgruppen-Zug Greifswald, Ehrenname "Werner Oestreich",
                      ..... with "Verdienstmedaille der KG in Silber 1988" , material Baumwolle,
                      ..... sold on Ebay.de 152 Euros/$215.33, *JM
                      91. #225. Kampfgruppen-Zug Rostock, ~$205.31 eBay.de, *JM
                      92. #154. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Rostock, ~$204.95 eBay.de, *JM
                      93. #110. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Döbeln, ~$73.59 eBay.de, *JM
                      94. #217. Kampfgruppen-Zug Bad Doberan, ~$143.77 eBay.de, *JM
                      95 (No#) Kampfgruppen-Batterie (Flak), Bitterfeld, Bill Sachse, *JM via Oliver.
                      96. #121. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Schwarzenberg, *JM, with cord & top,
                      ..... BESTE EINHEIT 1976, Willy Krause 7. Okt78, green 1. Mai74 streamers.
                      97. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Karl-Marx-Stadt, *DHH on WAF
                      98. #170. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Leipzig, *DHH, not #16.
                      99. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Pirna, *JM, unsold on eBay.de
                      100. (No#) Kampfgruppen- Hundertschaft Zschopau, with Beste Einheit
                      ..... 1976/1982, 7.Nov.1977/7.Okt.1973, Albin Schubert streamer+top, *JM.
                      101. #282. Kampfgruppen-Zug Sebnitz, *Johan=DF
                      102. (No#?) Kampfgruppen-Zug Seelow, Johan=DF, DDR Museum Bochum.
                      103. #3. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Burg, *bloodfan, t=555289
                      104. #150. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Burg, *bf with streamers, ".
                      105. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Salzwedel, *JM, sold for $182.00 USD
                      106. #135. Kampfgruppen-Zug Delitzsch, *JM & DF post #392 correction
                      107. #16. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Löbau, *OFW, HH #57-7988
                      108. #70. Kampfgruppen-Zug Zittau. *OFW, HH #57-7989, sold 300 E
                      109. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Brandenburg, *DF
                      110. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Cottbus, *JM ($270 USD eBay)
                      111. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Schwarzenberg, with
                      ...... 27 Jan 1973 green streamer, red cords & pole top, *JM ($311.55)
                      112. #231. Kampfgruppen-Zug Schwarzenberg, with 1 Mai 1976 green
                      ...... streamer, Beste Ein Heit 76,78,80,82, Max Niedermeyer streamer,
                      ...... red cords & top, *JM ($490)
                      113. #219. Kampfgruppen-Zug Nauen, 7 Okt 1975 green streamer,
                      ...... sold in Jul 2012 to Finland for 401 Euros, *Johan-D. (repeat of #28#?)
                      114. #175.Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Stendal, ~200 , *Johan/Forseti
                      115. #66 Kampfgruppen-Zug Stendal, eBay.de 193 , *Johan/OFW
                      116. #239. Kampfgruppen-Zug Zschopau, 3 streamers+, *Forseti/Johan
                      117. #227. Kampfgruppen-Zug Rostock, *Johan (262,50 EURO eBay de)
                      118. #153. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Genthin (Duplicate list 77) *TP.
                      119. #209. Kampfgruppen-Zug Genthin (Dup list 26 unit number use) *TP.
                      120. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Genthin *TP, with green & red streamers.
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                      O1. Wanderfahne Der Bezirksleitung Der SED Potsdam, Bester Kreis,
                      ..... *JM, eBay.de 450 Euros (other: like above but title on back)
                      O2. Beste Hundertschaft-des Kreises Eisenach-(around old center) with in
                      ..... corner "Kampfbanner der Kampfgruppen des Kreises Eisenach gestiftet
                      ..... vom VEB, Fahrzeugelektrik Ruhla im Jahre 1963", WMuseum, *JM
                      O3. Best KG VEB Kranbau Eberswalde, around old center, post 462, *GD
                      O4. 25 year best KG, KL SED VEB Mansfeld Kombinat Wilhelm Pieck, *DF
                      O5. Best Hundertschaft SED KL-Mansfeld Betriebe Eisleben, eBay $518,*JM
                      ..... early KG logo center + detailed factory sihouette & SED logo reverse.
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                      Question: 51-53 same unit growing larger, or separate at same time?
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                      ***(KG Honor flag pattern, with pole loops and silken field material)***
                      H1. #4. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot) Max Fritch, +doc, *J-D
                      ..... small wreath, above and below large arc lettering.
                      H2. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot) Erich Weinert, Johan-Dallasfan, WAF
                      ..... large wreath, above and below large arc lettering.
                      H3. #1.HS. Kirschau (corner square 2 sides), loops, no wreath, cotton*DHH
                      H4. (No#) Walter Ulbricht - Babelsberg, loops, no w", arc lettered, *DHH
                      H5. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Bruno Kuhn, loops, *J-D,
                      ..... small wreath, above and below large arc lettering. (H6 also *J-D)
                      H6. #1 Selbstandiger Zug Bahnbetriebswerk Schwerin, loops, no wreath
                      H7. VEB Kreidewerke Rugen Klementelvitz (Rugen)
                      H8. Hundertschaft MTS-Bereich Merzdorf, *GD
                      H9. #V. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (August Levin Neubrandenburg), no
                      ..... wreath, cotton 87x150cm, sold eBay.de 168.89 EURO/$238.91 *JM
                      H10. #1. Kampfgruppenbataillon Berlin (Robert Uhrig), no wreath or loops, 120
                      ..... x170, eBay.de 226.87 Euros, $327.49, *JM (maybe before #11 or fake?),
                      ..... 199 Euros unsold (10/02/11), *JM
                      H11. #III/2 Hundertschaft Kreis Mitte, no wreath, *paulj (post #562)
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                      Interesting to note repeat 219, 223 unit numbers, wonder why ???
                      Same question for repeat 238 unit numbers, above list #23 & #56.
                      Also it would be interesting to find a list of KG unit Honor names.
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                      Per 1998 KG unit Map 2021 possible total; 55 Bn, 526 HS, 1440 Zug.
                      **************************************************
                      V-1. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Herzberg, complete on original pole, *OFW
                      V-2. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Jessen, with documents, top+green-s,*GJ
                      V-3. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Weiss Wasser, +green streamer & cords,
                      V-4. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Hoyerswerda, + ", 17KE Auction 2009. *DF-J
                      V-5. Deutsche Volkspolizei Betriedsschutz-Amt Bohlen, *FS154
                      V-6. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Lubben, complete on original pole, *DHH
                      V-7. Volkspolizei-Kreisamt Finsterwalde, on pole, *OFW, HHA 48-9147
                      V-8. #10. Bereitschaft (10th Squad), on pole, *OFW, HHA 47-2122
                      V-9. Präsidium der Volkspolizei Berlin, *DF, from t=554595 post #14
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                      ZV-1. #2. Abteilung für Spezialbehandlung Bezirk Schwerin, *OFW
                      ZV-2. #1. Abteilung für Medizinische Hilfe Bezirk Magdeburg, *OFW
                      ZV-3. #2. RBI (Rettungs- Bergungs- und Instandsetzungs) ABTEILUNG
                      ....... VEB VOLKSWERFT STRALSUND BEZIRK ROSTOCK, *OFW
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                        source: www.bundesarchiv.de

                        delta576

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                          ....Year 1985:



                          source: www.bundesarchiv.de

                          delta576

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                            KG unit Honor name list ???

                            Originally posted by delta576 View Post
                            ....Year 1985:
                            source: www.bundesarchiv.de
                            delta576
                            Hello delta576:
                            Interesting document with some KG unit Honor names
                            included. Any chance of finding a list of all of the numbered
                            KG unit Honor names?
                            Per 1998 KG unit Map ~2021 possible
                            total KG units; 55 Bn, 526 HS, 1440 Zug. Which had names?

                            OFW
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                              ....Year 1980:





                              source: www.bundesarchiv.de

                              delta576

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                                ....Year 1980 - Order about the role, place, organisation and training of the KdA:



                                ...... page 2, page 3, page 4, page 5, page 6, page 7, page 8, page 9, page 10, page 11

                                rider 1:



                                rider 2:



                                rider 3:



                                ....page 2, page 3, page 4, page 5, page 6

                                rider 4



                                number of the units and the manpower:



                                ...page 2


                                source: www.bundesarchiv.de

                                delta576

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