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    #121
    Originally posted by Kozlov View Post
    Wow thats weird!

    I have just picked up a copy of that book about the Kampfgruppen!!

    I suspect its going to be a load of junk, it was written in the early 1960's.... but we shall see!
    It has moments where it is blatantly propaganda..... such as where it refers to Herr Ulbricht as "Führer Ulbricht"

    I thought about you when I first saw the book.

    Originally posted by Viktor View Post
    ... HET! even 1% of the time ...

    ...this lack of Political Perception will have to be noted...

    It will not do very much to mar my record.... I was "organized" long ago and my record is spotless...... The "Centre" will view your attempts to inform as counter-revolutionary and fascist in nature.

    Originally posted by Ralph Pickard View Post
    It will be interesting to read later your comments on what you think about the book.
    It is good only for the photographs and illustrations....and some of the written information is OK....most tends to be, in their own words "propagandistic".....although they were using that word to refer to the DDR.

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      #122
      Originally posted by jon m. View Post
      Are you sure it was really "voluntary"?
      wow...that most certainly is an interesting document you posted...I am very surprised that someone got actually fired because he did not want to join the Kampfgruppen.... and I would not have believed if someone had simply made a statement like this...but here it is black on white... Cheers, Torsten.

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        #123
        Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
        wow...that most certainly is an interesting document you posted...I am very surprised that someone got actually fired because he did not want to join the Kampfgruppen.... and I would not have believed if someone had simply made a statement like this...but here it is black on white... Cheers, Torsten.
        There are two more documents for the same worker...

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          #124
          here they are
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            #125
            Party Pressure

            Party Pressure.......
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              #126
              I got my copy of this book just now in the mail!

              Ooooooh its rather good! I like this!

              The completely bizarre thing about it is that although its a Western "anti" book, they have (truthfully or not) swallowed the whole propaganda message hook, line and sinker. And now their "anti book" reads like SED propaganda LOL!

              Its superb!

              Even the style of the book is like an official Kampfgruppen book

              There are some lovely photos I haven't seen before and some killer captions. My fave so far is a photo from the days of the wall construction with a caption "when the combat groups were deploying at the end of august 1961 along the frontier posts, they behaved as if they wanted to go on marching westwards towards "enemy territory", in "order to secure the victory of Socialism in the whole Germany"

              Urrah! LOL

              Mind you the photo that has a caption about "sports competition" underneath a picture of the usual ultra-fit Kampfers is also quite good.

              Oh and the double page spread of a mass Kampfgruppen rubber boat assault across the Elbe is also a moment that brings tears to my eyes.

              A question for our DDR Genossen - did people laugh at the Kampfgruppen back then?

              I think they are soooo rubbish they are cool 8)

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                #127
                Originally posted by Kozlov View Post

                A question for our DDR Genossen - did people laugh at the Kampfgruppen back then?
                8)
                more often than not --- YES ... Cheers, Torsten.

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                  #128
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                  Originally posted by Kozlov View Post
                  Its superb!

                  There are some lovely photos I haven't seen before and some killer captions. My fave so far is a photo from the days of the wall construction with a caption "when the combat groups were deploying at the end of august 1961 along the frontier posts, they behaved as if they wanted to go on marching westwards towards "enemy territory", in "order to secure the victory of Socialism in the whole Germany"
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                    #129
                    I also liked that picture

                    Originally posted by Kozlov View Post
                    Oh and the double page spread of a mass Kampfgruppen rubber boat assault across the Elbe is also a moment that brings tears to my eyes.
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Kozlov View Post
                      I got my copy of this book just now in the mail!
                      In showing brotherly solidarity to your Waffenbrueder..... could you post a picture or scan, from your book, the same page that I am posting here??? It is page 45. This page, in my book, was damaged (the only damage in the book) and I want to know what ....... Just look at the picture I am posting and you should understand.

                      Jon.
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                        #131
                        Ok Comrade, I shall do a pic for you!

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                          #132
                          I purchased a copy of this book on E-bay last year for a dollar or two, it think it cost me more in postage since it came from England. Since this book was published shortly after the wall went up some of the material is dated and as the title suggests, Civil War in the Marking , there is a good dose of anti-communist propaganda mixed in. I used some of the material to update a Wikipedia article on the subject at:
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_..._Working_Class

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                            #133
                            Looks like a great book, i'll have to find a copy too

                            to go with the 20yrs KG stamp block that Torsten posted earlier, here's a 30year one......

                            http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Stampblock.jpg

                            http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nStampbl-1.jpg

                            http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nStampbl-2.jpg

                            http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nStampbl-3.jpg

                            really attractive looking item imho

                            regards,
                            rich

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                              #134
                              Originally posted by jon m. View Post
                              In showing brotherly solidarity to your Waffenbrueder..... could you post a picture or scan, from your book, the same page that I am posting here???
                              Genosse, I am sorry to report that my scanning equipment is currently very counter-revolutionary and until it has atoned for its crimes (ie been replaced!) I shall not be able to scan this for you

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                                #135
                                That is fine. Instead can you just type here (in this thread) what is written down for numbers: 15, 16, 17, and 26 as listed on page 45?


                                Originally posted by Kozlov View Post
                                Genosse, I am sorry to report that my scanning equipment is currently very counter-revolutionary and until it has atoned for its crimes (ie been replaced!) I shall not be able to scan this for you

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