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    #31
    hi all

    Here are two pics of Kampfgruppe Leaders wearing there awards.

    click on Kampfgruppe
    www.fotos.web.de/opy80

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      #32
      Thalmannpioneer,

      Great photos you posted. Many thanks.
      Michael D. GALLAGHER

      M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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        #33
        I've never seen this Kampfgruppen medal before. How common would this medal be to find on the market? It seems one could focus a DDR collection just on the KG!
        Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
        Erinnerungsmedaille 20 Jahre Kampfgruppen der Arbeitklasse:
        Kampfgruppen 20 year Celebration or Jubilee Medal:
        Approved January 31, 1973 as an Anniversary Medal relevant the establishment of the Kampfgruppen in 1953. It was then awarded to all currently actively serving members of the Kampfgruppen, effective September of 1973. The medal is worn on the upper left side of the Tunic.

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          #34
          Actually, my DDR collection is just Kampfgruppen

          Not sure how long the collection will take to complete, there's a fair amount of stuff but not that much!

          I have seen a Erinnerungsmedaille 20 Jahre Kampfgruppen medal on ebay a few weeks ago... so they are around. Went for a couple of Euros

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            #35
            Correction!

            There is one on there now:

            http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...168748973&rd=1

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              #36
              Thank you, sir!
              Originally posted by Kozlov
              Correction!

              There is one on there now:

              http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...168748973&rd=1

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                #37
                Originally posted by Roy Queen
                I've never seen this Kampfgruppen medal before. How common would this medal be to find on the market? It seems one could focus a DDR collection just on the KG!
                Hi Roy,

                This particular KG Medal is a bit of an anomoly. By appearance and quality, it is the nicest of all the KG Medals, and to my knowledge, the only one awarded in a nice presentation case, instead of the typical plastic case used for lesser medals.

                However, this particular medal is in actuality, in order of precedence, the lowest. Go figure. Despite its appearance, it is in actuality, a "Jubilee" type of medal, given not for years of service, but in recognition of how many years the KG was in existence.

                You'd think it would be as prevalent (even more so) as the NVA 30 year jubilee medal. But it appears not to be.

                Also, though I can't find any documentation on this yet - there appears to be at least two separate strikings of this medal. The latter probably in the late 80s. The early ones are of a more dull finish and better looking relief. The other, the high luster appearance typical of later production medals with the more shallow relief.
                Michael D. GALLAGHER

                M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                  #38
                  Hello Michael,
                  That is really odd that this medal is the lowest one on the KG totem pole. I will agree that it is the nicest one out of the KG medal series. As it's rarity goes, would have been possible that this medal was issued with different requirements rather than the NVA jubilee medals? Possibly awarded along with a longevity service medal?

                  Roy
                  Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
                  Hi Roy,

                  This particular KG Medal is a bit of an anomoly. By appearance and quality, it is the nicest of all the KG Medals, and to my knowledge, the only one awarded in a nice presentation case, instead of the typical plastic case used for lesser medals.

                  However, this particular medal is in actuality, in order of precedence, the lowest. Go figure. Despite its appearance, it is in actuality, a "Jubilee" type of medal, given not for years of service, but in recognition of how many years the KG was in existence.

                  You'd think it would be as prevalent (even more so) as the NVA 30 year jubilee medal. But it appears not to be.

                  Also, though I can't find any documentation on this yet - there appears to be at least two separate strikings of this medal. The latter probably in the late 80s. The early ones are of a more dull finish and better looking relief. The other, the high luster appearance typical of later production medals with the more shallow relief.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Roy Queen
                    Hello Michael,
                    That is really odd that this medal is the lowest one on the KG totem pole. I will agree that it is the nicest one out of the KG medal series. As it's rarity goes, would have been possible that this medal was issued with different requirements rather than the NVA jubilee medals? Possibly awarded along with a longevity service medal?

                    Roy
                    Quite possible. It is similar to, but not actually a jubilee medal. So your comment certainly has merit.

                    It would be nice if we could enlist the interest of a former KG on the Forum, to better shed light on their activities and the wearing of their awards and decorations.
                    Michael D. GALLAGHER

                    M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                      #40
                      Roy, this is the KG 20 years service medal that I mentioned in my PM to you...is this the one that you are looking for? it is gold.
                      Attached Files

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                        #41
                        Roy, this is the 25 year KG long service medal...
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                          #42
                          Torsten,

                          The medal in question is called: Erinnerungsmedaille 20 Jahre Kampfgruppen der Arbeitklasse.

                          It is silver in color and is suspended from a solid red ribbon. If you click on the link in Roy's post above, you can see a picture of it.
                          Michael D. GALLAGHER

                          M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                            #43
                            oops...got it wrong again/// don't have that one.... btw, when were the Kampfgruppen started? Was it 1956, like the NVA? Cheers, Torsten.

                            Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
                            Torsten,

                            The medal in question is called: Erinnerungsmedaille 20 Jahre Kampfgruppen der Arbeitklasse.

                            It is silver in color and is suspended from a solid red ribbon. If you click on the link in Roy's post above, you can see a picture of it.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by torstenbel
                              oops...got it wrong again/// don't have that one.... btw, when were the Kampfgruppen started? Was it 1956, like the NVA? Cheers, Torsten.
                              hi

                              founded 1952/53

                              first appearance in public in may 1954 at the anually May Parade in Berlin...wearing blue overalls and red cufftitel with "Kampfgruppe"..
                              cheers
                              Last edited by Thälmannpionier; 04-06-2005, 04:53 PM.

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                                #45
                                Am I right to say this is a fake ? The guy just added a patch to this Army jacket.

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