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    WARPAC Rambo

    'abend Genossen,

    I know I have repeated myself time and again on this subject (much to the annoyance of my esteemed friends from the former DDR), but I can never look upon a photo of NVA or any body of communist troops 'messing around' without thoughts of stunned amazement.

    Growing up in the U.S.A. in the 1960s with the Cuban Missile Crisis still fresh in the heads of my elders and with the war against communist North Vietnam in full swing (fought by the other NVA), I was told time and again that communists troops were highly indoctrinated automatons bereft of any feeling and certainly not prone to playing 'grab ass' in the field or anywhere else.

    If you told me in 1987 when I was a NATO soldier in "West" Germany that the "East" German soldiers across the Inner German Border had access to personal cameras and hammed it up when there was no adult supervision around, I never would have believed it. If I had seen pictures like these back in those days, I would have been sure that they were fakes. After all, communists didn't have fun and communists didn't smile, especially communist soldiers.

    In any event, I hope you enjoy these next few photos, which continue to blow my mind even today.

    Thanks for your continued patience and yes, my friends from the NVA and other WARPAC armies have always known that they were "normal" and can't believe that I would have thought otherwise....

    All the best,
    TJ
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    These guys have haircuts like the freakin East German version of the "Beach Boys."

    Smiling, relaxed, content, a person off the street wouldn't even know they are soldiers.

    Mind boggling to former Cold Warriors like myself...
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      #3
      Another photo of "chill-laxing" NVA.
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        #4
        Hats on; a Feldwebel must have walked by.

        Are the concrete tubes from some kind of obstacle course?

        Thanks for looking.

        TJ
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          #5
          Also notice the lovely GAZ-63A in the background
          They were not that common in NVA service.

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            #6
            On your more general point, I would say that one (of the many) sad effects of war (even a cold war) is that propaganda needs to de-humanise the enemy, in order to galvanise the troops to attack. This is sadly true of all sides, and is yet another aspect of the famous saying that truth is the first casualty of war. To an extent this is inevitable, because seeing the enemy as one that is actually not so very different from oneself, would make warfare very difficult indeed. It is precisely for this reason that all high commands, on all sides, reacted so badly to the spontaneous truce of Christmas 1914 on the western front.
            But if it is of any consolation, having watched hours and hours of DDR propaganda (Armeefilmschau), I can tell you that it was exactly the same on the other side. It is even funny... when the Americans or even worse the hated Bundeswehr are shown, the music turns cold and sinister. It's like Darth Vader approaching The B&W footage turns grainy, much grainier than it has any reason to be, because better quality footage must have been easily obtainable, and then all manners of military brutality against civilians are shown, probably drawn from Latin America or God only knows where, as long as the helmets and the kit look American enough...
            So there it is...

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              #7
              Originally posted by iannima View Post
              On your more general point, I would say that one (of the many) sad effects of war (even a cold war) is that propaganda needs to de-humanise the enemy, in order to galvanise the troops to attack. This is sadly true of all sides, and is yet another aspect of the famous saying that truth is the first casualty of war. To an extent this is inevitable, because seeing the enemy as one that is actually not so very different from oneself, would make warfare very difficult indeed. It is precisely for this reason that all high commands, on all sides, reacted so badly to the spontaneous truce of Christmas 1914 on the western front.
              But if it is of any consolation, having watched hours and hours of DDR propaganda (Armeefilmschau), I can tell you that it was exactly the same on the other side. It is even funny... when the Americans or even worse the hated Bundeswehr are shown, the music turns cold and sinister. It's like Darth Vader approaching The B&W footage turns grainy, much grainier than it has any reason to be, because better quality footage must have been easily obtainable, and then all manners of military brutality against civilians are shown, probably drawn from Latin America or God only knows where, as long as the helmets and the kit look American enough...
              So there it is...
              Matteo,

              Your assessment is spot on and I appreciate your observations very much. My only regret is that I could only show you one view of the GAZ-63A.

              Many thanks,
              TJ

              P.S. - Was that Klaus and yourself pictured in the September issue of Classic Military Vehicle? This has to be your second or third appearance, correct?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Guardian 5 View Post
                P.S. - Was that Klaus and yourself pictured in the September issue of Classic Military Vehicle? This has to be your second or third appearance, correct?
                If it was all of guys in Blumentarn, yes it was Klaus . It has appeared once or twice before but always in minuscule photographs . This is the biggest so far It was certainly taken at W&P 2014. Regrettably going to that show is not worth the bother any more

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guardian 5 View Post
                  '... and yes, my friends from the NVA and other WARPAC armies have always known that they were "normal" and can't believe that I would have thought otherwise....

                  All the best,
                  TJ
                  thank you took me about 20 years and many visits to the US to completely change my mind about Americans compared to what it was from when I was growing up in the DDR. Cheers, Torsten.

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                    #10
                    More photos of DDR troops goofing off. If I had ever got my hands on these back in the 80's as a G.I. stationed in "West Germany," it would have blew my mind. And what a severe blow it would have been to communist propaganda. I remember how the East Germans in particular would make use of photos of U.S. troops "mooning" the border fortifications or flipping the bird. Showing some of those photos would make for a most entertaining thread....

                    Many thanks,
                    TJ

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                      #11
                      Hello Matteo,

                      Is this a picture of your "Klaus"?

                      Many thanks,
                      TJ

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