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    1990 Uniform Regulations

    These images recently surfaced very briefly on an ebay auction before being taken down by the seller, who, on further enquiry, stated they were no longer available. Most interestingly, they were allegedly part of a set of 200 photographs!

    To me they seem fairly significant as I have not seen many illustrations or photographs of the 1990 proposed uniform regulations other than those in Keubke/Kunz and the occasional photo of UTV in wear.

    These photos serve to reinforce my gladness that the NVA did not embark on such 'modernisations', doing away with visors, breeches and jackboots altogether, and awkwardly pairing aiguilletes and daggers with trousers, berets and FJ boots.

    Anyway, enjoy! If anyone has seen these before or knows where they come from or if they come from a book, please chime in, otherwise I will assume they are from some kind of early set of demonstration photoshoots.





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    what a horror! Genossen!

    the result of a redesign of the American capitalist matrix !!




    regards

    Gunter..

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      #3
      FranzJoseph,

      Thanks for posting these photos. It would have been interesting to have seen them all. Also, it would be good to know where they came from. I have a copy of the 1990 regulations and there are no pictures in it.

      Regards,

      Gordon

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        Originally posted by Gordon Craig View Post
        FranzJoseph,

        Thanks for posting these photos. It would have been interesting to have seen them all. Also, it would be good to know where they came from. I have a copy of the 1990 regulations and there are no pictures in it.

        Regards,

        Gordon
        Hi Gordon,

        No problem, I thought them to be of some significance when I spotted them for auction. When they were taken down, on further enquiry with the seller, he simply stated they were 'no longer available' and when I asked if he had/could take any pictures of they others for me, he said there were no other pictures that he had. I can only assume someone made him an offer he could not refuse.

        There is no reason to assume ALL 200 images deal with 1990 regulations, but there is a chance that they were, which is all the more shame as there is precious little photographic evidence surrounding these proposals. There is always the possibility that they were some kind of pictoral portfolio created for review in a very small quantity. Hopefully someone may have some input here

        Cheers

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          #5
          Ugly!

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            #6
            Great pictures!

            These remind me about the berets. I'm not an intensive DDR collector (except for camo) so maybe I'm missing something, but I've not seen a lot of berets available compared to, well, pretty much everything else. Did the berets go into general production or were they mostly a preview of things that were planned?

            Steve

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              #7
              Interesting to see the reversed shovel (again)! It would appear, that this was actually intended? Would think, that it would be problematic for wear with chemical suit.

              Regards
              Klaus

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                #8
                Keubke / kunz 's uniformen 1949-1990 book shows two pages of the new uniforms on live models like the rest of the book .this book is now out in english I've been told .

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                  Gentlemen,

                  Should anyone come across a source of Keubke's book in English I am sure that the forum members would really appreciate hearing about it.

                  Regards,

                  Gordon

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                    Hi Gordon,

                    Thanks to the tip here I checked and it seems that Schiffer published the English translation in 2014. Here is a link on eBay:

                    http://www.ebay.com/p/Uniforms-of-th...2014/166229804

                    I do not have my German copy available to me to compare against, but from what I see on eBay it appears to be the same book. And that is great for me since my German is good enough for "hunt and peck" research, not good enough for casual browsing. Which is why the Schiffer book is now on its way to me

                    Steve

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                      #11
                      I have heard though that the Schiffer book is a somewhat poor translation.

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                        Originally posted by FranzJoseph View Post
                        I have heard though that the Schiffer book is a somewhat poor translation.
                        I have the book in English, and FranzJoseph is correct, it's a clumsy translation. But may be of value if you don't speak any German. Here is a previous thread on the book:

                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=739619

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                          Kevin,

                          Thanks for bringing up the old thread. I had forgotten about the comments re the poor translation of the book. Very unusual for Schiffer.

                          Regards,

                          Gordon

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                            #14
                            The big question for me is what happened to all the concept / prototype headgear and uniforms that were made for evaluations ( appearance ,production costs etc ) from 1956 to 90 .

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                              Originally posted by ehrentitle View Post
                              I have the book in English, and FranzJoseph is correct, it's a clumsy translation. But may be of value if you don't speak any German. Here is a previous thread on the book:

                              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=739619
                              I'm saddened to hear that I've bought a substandard Schiffer book, however as you say a poor quality English translation is still better than me manually typing things into a web based translator.

                              I have the original German version already, so if there's a section I have more questions about I can get a better translation from the German.

                              Steve

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