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    Questions about 1975 Kampfweste

    I recently acquired a first model, S (1975) dated, FJ Kampfweste which has been modified in a few ways. I would like to ask knowledgeable members for their assessment of this piece.

    Let me first say that I bought this knowing full well that it had been modified for button closure; second, that I paid very little for it. No matter what, it’s a very displayable vest which I will keep until an unmodified example comes my way.

    So, when it arrived and I started comparing it with the 2 similar vests I could find pictured here and member Pauly’s vest on the NVAParatrooper FB page, I began to realize my vest had another major alteration made to it: the large pocket applied on the back, below the shoulders, has been removed. Its flap system is still there, so at first I didn’t notice its absence. But looking at Pauly’s vest from the side I see that the back pocket on a 1st model vest is VERY different from a late model vest: it actually extends over the belt tunnel and is then stitched down below that. Below the waistband, the large cargo pocket for the gasmask filter has been replaced with a flat patch pocket. The two small cargo pockets on the right side that hold first aid packets have been replaced with one medium-size patch pocket with a tab closure. Let me tell you, the workmanship and the materials used in these mods is absolutely Quartermaster quality. The Strichtarn material of the pocket replacements is exactly the same as the rest of the vest. It also shows the same (minimal) level of use. The buttons used are NVA issue of the era. The buttonhole stitching is professional grade. I have to ask: could these be suggested modifications made during the trial issue period? It really doesn’t strike me as being a post-1990 sportsman’s alteration for a fishing vest. What are your thoughts???

    I would like to add a couple of Pauly’s photos for side-by-side comparison. His © watermark is prominent so I hope it’s okay.

    Basic view of my vest from front & back:



    Rear view of Pauly’s vest for comparison:


    Side view of Pauly’s vest showing large back/shoulder pocket extending over belt tunnel:


    Buttonhole modification of front closure:





    Where the attaching loops for the snap hooks were removed:


    Flap of the back/shoulder pocket. No snap hooks were ever attached or removed from here


    I’ve turned the vest inside out to show the collar bone padding, markings and finger loops at the top of the shoulders:



    Markings close up:


    The replaced rear pockets (non-cargo type):


    Filter pocket, simple buttonhole closure:


    First aid pocket, tab closure:


    Soldier’s name inside gas mask bag and ammo pouch flaps:


    #2
    Hi, no problem with using my photos, that’s why I post them for other collectors.

    As for your vest, you are right it has been highly modified. I have never seen one so modified before. I have original photos of the last model vest being modified with extra buttons and tie downs, but not complete removal of pockets and replacing them with patch type packets.

    Not saying though it couldn't have been modified while still in service. It defiantly is a professional sewing job though, like you mentioned. I'll look though my files and see if I can find anything like this.

    Anyway it is as interesting example.

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      #3
      Thanks Pauly,
      I appreciate your weighing in on this

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        #4
        Interesting Vest! As far as known there were at least 4 versions in use over the years, i do believe that yours was most likely modified while in use.

        Interesting part is that the Gas Mask bag was still left up front, since this type of bag and set up was causing many probs and was known to tear off vest in use.

        Dont see how or even why anybody would do such professional mods unless trying to work out the Bugs!

        Positively nobody was tryimg to turn this in to a Fishing Vest since with those the Ammo pouch and gas mask bag were 1st to go!

        We may never know!

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          #5
          Interesting vest indeed. Can't say much about the modifications, but it's hard to tell from the photos whether the 'original' back pockets were removed, or if they were ever put on in the first place. It's also rather weird that they would have installed the three foliage loops in the lower back in a vertical manner, which doesn't seem very conducive to holding anything in place.

          What really drew my interest however is the break in the 'rain streaks' across the lower part of the back panel. I don't think I've ever seen this printing artifact before:





          This could only have happened if the print roller (A) had momentarily lost contact with either the main cylinder roller or the color furnisher




          At the speed these things normally operate (up to a couple of hundred yards a minute), a gap like this takes less than a hundredth of a second to happen. Someone, or something, must have bumped pretty hard into the printer assembly while it was running, thus leaving behind a rare and permanent mark on an already unusual piece of equipment for future DDR enthusiasts to ponder over.


          Gene T

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            #6
            Genossen, A most interesting Variant to the normal Model, who in the Fj would need to carry large objects on their backs with straps, to the point the normal Vest would become a problem, thats my Rezidency's thoughts on the matter ?

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              #7
              Thank you

              Gents,
              Thank you all for your thoughts and ideas. I am relieved to hear your confirmation that these do not seem like civilian post-1990 alterations. The last comment about someone who carries heavy equipment on his back gave me pause to wonder: Would a radioman, or a mortar carrier, or some other specialist with a large pack frame seek to move things like the gas mask filter away from the lower back area? At any rate, I'm content for it to remain an interesting puzzle.

              I'll try to get some adequate pics of the stitching impressions where pockets were removed.

              Thanks again

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