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    Hi,
    While scanning a few WW2 Finnish photos into photbucket i thought i'd do these DDR ones as well, i don't know if they've been previously published (the first one may have.)
    Hope you like them......

    stamp on the rear of the above photo


    no date on this one unfortunatly.

    all the best,
    Rich

    #2
    Both of these photos appear to have been taken at former Sachsenhausen prison
    Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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      #3
      surprised to see the officer on the right of the first photo wear his helmet as wonky as this for a swearing in ceremony ... Cheers, Torsten.

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        #4
        YOu're right Tortsen! I find that a bit odd aswell...also, I see a cufftitle on the NCO to the wonky-man's right, but can't distinguish it. Any thoughts?

        -Ian

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          #5
          Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
          surprised to see the officer on the right of the first photo wear his helmet as wonky as this for a swearing in ceremony ... Cheers, Torsten.
          I was thinking the same thing too... perhaps he thought he was wearing it at a rakish angle. If so, apart from being decidedly unsocialist, he just ain't pulling it off. Instead of looking rakish he looks, well... wonky.

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            #6
            Anybody notice lack of piping on officer's parade tunic? Maybe service tunic w/ cuff bars?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ian Richardson View Post
              I see a cufftitle on the NCO to the wonky-man's right, but can't distinguish it. Any thoughts?
              Tresse of the Hauptfeldwebel

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                #8
                Originally posted by eastgermansks View Post
                Anybody notice lack of piping on officer's parade tunic? Maybe service tunic w/ cuff bars?
                That is often the case in black and white photographs, provided that the piping is NOT white to start off with... And it certainly isn't on the soldiers' shoulder boards. My first guess is that these are Grenzer. That shade of green just blends into the Steingrau in a black and white photograph, whereas the white always shines.

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                  Originally posted by Kartofelpreußer View Post
                  I was thinking the same thing too... perhaps he thought he was wearing it at a rakish angle. If so, apart from being decidedly unsocialist, he just ain't pulling it off. Instead of looking rakish he looks, well... wonky.
                  not just unsocialist, which is bad enough, but unmilitary and against regulations for how to wear a helmet in the army ... Cheers, Torsten.

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                    #10
                    I thought the same thing about his helmet, but didn't post it. He looks a bit sloppy...

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                      #11
                      Hello......

                      an interessting fact at this picture is the grey belt of the soldiers.

                      Greeting

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                        Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
                        not just unsocialist, which is bad enough, but unmilitary and against regulations for how to wear a helmet in the army ... Cheers, Torsten.
                        Genossen,
                        Likely the Genosse has worn it a little loose, any drill moves could cause this "hat on the side of the head' look.... This is what I have found when giving it large.

                        Originally posted by iannima View Post
                        That is often the case in black and white photographs, provided that the piping is NOT white to start off with... And it certainly isn't on the soldiers' shoulder boards. My first guess is that these are Grenzer. That shade of green just blends into the Steingrau in a black and white photograph, whereas the white always shines.
                        That is what I was instructed to think, Genosse iannima.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Viktor View Post
                          Genossen,
                          Likely the Genosse has worn it a little loose, any drill moves could cause this "hat on the side of the head' look.... This is what I have found when giving it large.

                          mmmhhh ... nope, that should not really happen ... if the helmet is fitted and worn correctly it should never move like that, no matter how enthusiastically you might be parading around or no matter how energetically you might be attacking that assault course or whatever ... it should not move like that, unless you did not tighten it down or correctly or it was too big to start with ... never, ever moved like that when I wore my helmet Cheers, Torsten.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by iannima View Post
                            whereas the white always shines.
                            Mot. Schutzen RULES

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
                              mmmhhh ... nope, that should not really happen ... if the helmet is fitted and worn correctly it should never move like that, no matter how enthusiastically you might be parading around or no matter how energetically you might be attacking that assault course or whatever ... it should not move like that, unless you did not tighten it down or correctly or it was too big to start with ... never, ever moved like that when I wore my helmet Cheers, Torsten.
                              But yet Genosse torstenbel it has happen to the Genosse, lack of Political Perception is a terrible thing.

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