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    Karl Marx orden numberd with 1

    Hello German collectors,some weeks ago I foud a site with the first Karl Marx orden given to W.Pieck.
    It was from a german medal collector site.I can't find it anymore.
    It was the medal,document and ausweis given to Pieck.Numbered with one and the award given to Pieck and a signature from Pieck on this award.
    I'm sure more collectors would love to see this,ore much better OWN this set.
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    Stefas,

    This award and the accompanying document are in the collection of the Deutsches Historisches Museum in Berlin. Unfortunately, I do not believe they are not on display at this time. I have pictures of them some where and if I can find them I will post them. The DHM has refused to send me a foto of the rear of this medal.

    Regards,

    Gordon

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      Originally posted by Stefas View Post
      Hello German collectors,some weeks ago I foud a site with the first Karl Marx orden given to W.Pieck.
      It was from a german medal collector site.I can't find it anymore.
      It was the medal,document and ausweis given to Pieck.Numbered with one and the award given to Pieck and a signature from Pieck on this award.
      I'm sure more collectors would love to see this,ore much better OWN this set.
      Hi Vlassio

      The Karl-Marx-Orden from Wilhelm Pieck belonges to the DHM in Berlin .
      Some things like this KMO belongs to Germany ( also the Parade Cars ) it would be a shame if things like this fall in greedy collector hands .
      I have plans to give my entire collection ( for free ) to a german museum when I come to a certain age .
      For the collector who has some spare money , there is a KMO for sale from the first series of 30 ( number 22 ) , the other ones ( nr. 31-60 ) are stamped.



      Regards , Johan

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        #4
        Johan,

        Who is offering the KMO for sale? Thanks.

        Jeff Mack

        Never mind, I found it at Hans Worbes 3/2009
        Last edited by Jeff Mack; 12-19-2009, 06:24 PM.

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          #5
          This may be a really dumb question, but here goes anyway .....

          The Karl Marx Order numbered No. 1 that was given to PIECK; If this was awarded to PIECK, why would his "Signature" be on the Certificate?

          Shouldn't the Certificate be signed by the person that awarded the Order? Or was this self-awarded?

          I confess I'm a bit confused .....
          Michael D. GALLAGHER

          M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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            #6
            Michael, I'm glad I wasn't the only person confused by that, just didn't bring it up. I assumed the post meant that Pieck had awarded it to himself... unusual but probably not unprecedented... not sure it's tue, but I heard Reichsmarschall Meyer did as much for himself during WWII.

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              #7
              Michael,

              Interesting question. If you look on the DHM site you will find Piek's Ausweiss and the signature on the document and his signature on the Ausweiss are quite different . It looks like someone else signed his name to the document for the award!

              Regards,

              Gordon

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                #8
                Hi to all,

                Here are the documents.

                On the booklet, you can see that Pieck signature is the recipient's one. And there is an official body "Buro des Presidium des M..." with a signature that awards the Order.

                Cheers.

                Ch.

                Pic : DHM Magazin - 5/13 - 1995
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                  #9
                  Signatures.

                  Ch.

                  Pic : DHM Magazin - 5/13 - 1995
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                    Urkunde.

                    It is clear that Pieck awards himself this Order, speaking at the 1st person : Ich, mein... Indeed an official body has taken the decision. See 1st line...

                    Ch.

                    Pic : DHM Magazin - 5/13 - 1995
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                      Details.

                      Ch.

                      Pic : DHM Magazin - 5/13 - 1995
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                        #12
                        Details 2.

                        Ch.

                        Pic : DHM Magazin - 5/13 - 1995
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher View Post
                          This may be a really dumb question, but here goes anyway .....

                          The Karl Marx Order numbered No. 1 that was given to PIECK; If this was awarded to PIECK, why would his "Signature" be on the Certificate?

                          Shouldn't the Certificate be signed by the person that awarded the Order? Or was this self-awarded?

                          I confess I'm a bit confused .....

                          Hi Michael

                          Wilhelm Pieck also rewarded himself the VVO in Gold on 7-10-1954






                          The VVO Certificate was in this book


                          A big bronze Wilhelm Pieck bust from my collection


                          Regards , Johan

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                            #14
                            Hi Johan,

                            Are Pieck's KMO docs pictured in color in your book ?

                            Cheers.

                            Ch.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Christophe View Post
                              Hi Johan,

                              Are Pieck's KMO docs pictured in color in your book ?

                              Cheers.

                              Ch.
                              Hi Christophe

                              No , there is no photo of the KMO docs in this book , I have seen a photo somewhere , but I can't remember where .

                              In the book is a photo of Pieck wearing his KMO


                              Regards , Johan

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