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    Question for former NVA forum members who used the Pistole M: Did the NVA use lanyards when you used these pistols?

    It seems clear to me that other agencies did. Every picture I see of VoPo, TraPo, Zoll, etc. training with pistols, they invariably have them at the end of the lanyards. I can only imagine they used them in the field as well-- my Mak, from the Dresden VP armory, still has a little piece of lanyard inside the original grip from where it was cut off, presumably at or after decomissioning and sale on the private market.

    I see many vendors online trying to sell leather lanyards as East German, but I don't see how these could possibly be correct-- they all appear to have catches for the metal hooks as seen on the brown grips of other Warsaw Pact Makarovs, which unless I'm mistaken the East Germans did not use. The genuine East German grips I've seen have all been black, with a hole in the back to run a cloth (nylon?) lanyard through.

    I was also ready to ask how the lanyard was kept stowed in service, but I believe I found the answer for myself by looking at a holster: It would appear that the string would fold very neatly behind the little extra flap that's built in at the grip end of the holster, and deploy easily in use. I had always wondered why there was that extra bit of leather there, and it seems this is the only logical explanation. Can anyone confirm this?

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    Its a nasty piece of string they used... my Genosse will no doubt show you a photo of his shortly...

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      #3
      Genosse, I have such a string, I bought an entire second grip with lanyard intact so as to interchange it as necessary with my original (which has to come off now and then for cleaning anyway) without altering the piece permanently-- it seems that once the little tuft and knot come out of the grip, I'd never get them back in again.

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        Edit... point already covered...

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          Genosse,
          This is my best Image until Moscow Centre allows the (Deactivated) Weapon system, ( Pistole M) held in this Rezidency's Armoury to be imaged..



          you can see the Lanyard, it has a loop to fit over the belt at one end.

          (Hopeful Genosse David H will not beat me to death this time...)



          Damn!... Got me again...

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            Viktor,

            I believe your image may show incorrect use of the lanyard complex... I have yet to see a period picture showing a lanyard dangling like that, whether NVA or MdI (although I am hardly encyclopedic in that regard), and I'd think having it hang thusly would be begging the thing to hook on to something or other.

            That little flap in the holster is definitely NOT just an accidental extra bit, it is clearly there on purpose, and I think accomodating a folded-up lanyard is exactly the purpose it's there for-- it certainly is perfect in size and design to keep the lanyard in while holstered, yet allow it to deploy quickly upon drawing the weapon.

            I'll try to take pictures this weekend to make clear what I mean.

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              Genosse Kartofelpreußer,
              I believe you are correct, you don't see the Boot lace lanyard Complex in NVA historical images, it seems to live in the holster as you wrote.
              I was wearing it "Russian style".

              Also I had however just dealt with a criminal attempt in on the Borber....

              I have corrected my OoB to suit your Formula....
              Last edited by Viktor; 12-13-2009, 12:35 PM.

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