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    E-Bay Banner der Arbeit Auction

    Were any of you watching the auction on E-bay for a Banner der Arbeit II that ended tonight? It sold for $62 + $10 postage? The seller is in Narva, Estonia. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330288820502

    I considered bidding on it when the price was low, but saw some things that I didn't like.

    For example the medal appears to be a 1st Class (Stufe II) while the ribbon bar and certificate are for a 2nd Class (Stufe II) medal. Also the medal has that corroded look that you often see in awards made just before unification. There are also spots at the top of the certificate that appear to be mirror images of each other on each side.

    Also I got burnt on a simular 1985 BdA II from a German seller a few years back. It was named to a Stasi officer. The certificate turned out to be a photocopy and the medal was one of these poorly crafted late issue jobs.
    Last edited by ehrentitle; 11-30-2008, 12:23 AM.
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      #3
      hello, this is clearly a put-up group... what astounding with unumbered awards? This set was on ebay.com?
      Do you believe the order is of the last variation (expoxy ?)

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        Originally posted by seb16trs View Post
        hello, this is clearly a put-up group... what astounding with unumbered awards? This set was on ebay.com?
        Do you believe the order is of the last variation (expoxy ?)
        seb16trs,

        Yes it was on Ebay. Although they don't show the back the BdA looks has the distinctive staining on the metal around the epoxy red banner that is associated with last issue awards.

        I would have considered buying the group if the certificate was original and the price had not gone so high.

        I purchased an original 1980 BdA III on German E-bay last year for 23 Euro which included a thank you note from the SED and invitation to the ceremony at the Palast der Republic. The medal was high quality and the document was a much larger format (size) than what is shown in this auciton.

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          #5
          Hey Kevin - Here is what appears to be a smaller version of the BdA being presented to an MfS officer in 1987.
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          Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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            #6
            Thanks Ralph, There is no question that they went to the smaller certificate. I have a 1989 BdA in the smaller format. Question is when did the DDR go to this format? Was it as early as October 7 1984 when this example was supposed to have been awarded?

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              Hi Kevin,

              "Was it as early as October 7 1984 ..."

              Yes, but I don't know exact, when it changed, there is a gap in my collection.
              The last in the larger format is from 1977, the first in the small format is from 1983.

              When I compare it with my "Verdienter Aktivist" documents, I can see the change from DIN A4 (large) 1980 to DIN A5 (small) 1981. It is the second change for the "Verdienter Aktivist", the first was in 1970 from DIN A3 (very large) to DIN A4.

              Therefore it could be the same for the "Banner der Arbeit" in 1980/1981, see your 1980 document.

              A few days ago you could buy on ebay.de a "Banner der Arbeit" II from 1985 with case and document for 23 Euro, shipment included.

              Or see here, Buy It Now, 34.50 Euro, shipment in Germany included, ebay.de No. 300228420566

              Uwe

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