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    Paradehelm Erste Ausführung

    This year I have evidently got lucky as far as headgear is concerned : I have recently won an auction on Ebay for a plastic helmet of the FIRST rarer variety. Now when it comes to helmets I always make a bee line for Olivier's website where a careful comparison is done both of the steel and plastic ones. I cannot aspire to make that comparison any better than it already is as it is excellent , but I thought I would try a different approach and show helmets suide by side rather than individually as the differences in such round shaped objects is often deceptive and fugitive. So I have arranged quite a few photographs to gain a perspective on this. Please do forgive if there is an element of repetition but such tiny differences might not be discernible in a single but in a combination of shots, there is a better chance of apprehending them .
    Here we start...
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    Firstly I have tried to compare the FIRST pattern just received with the SECOND pattern, a mint example of which I have also recently purchased:

    FIRST pattern to the LEFT
    SECOND pattern to the RIGHT


    Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:17 PM.

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      Two differences are immediately obvious as noted before by Olivier: the bigger rivets on the FIRST pattern and the flanged edge that goes around the entire helmet instead of stopping in the raised section over the eyebrows as in the SECOND pattern

      From above:


      Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:17 PM.

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        But the major difference is actually in the shape of the "dome": the FIRST pattern one being much rounder and flatter at the top with the sides rising at a steeper angle. Whereas in the SECOND pattern helmet, the "dome" is much pointier. This is already visible from some of the previous shots, but it becomes obvious from the rear:

        Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:18 PM.

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          A shot of the inside of the FIRST pattern helmet.

          I have not been able to take a good shot of this. On the shell there is the number 56 stamped which could either be the year of production or the size as 56 is also inkstamped on the leather liner.
          The liner also bears a dry mark with "VEB PERFEKT" with a stylised tower on top and the Betr. N. Unfortunately getting a dry stamp of this type to show in photograph is very hard.
          Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:18 PM.

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            The next thing I thought of doing was to compare the first pattern PLASTIC helmet with an equally first pattern but in STEEL.
            Here they are Plastic to the left and Steel to the right:

            Profile...

            And the other side with position reversed obviously

            The impression I get is that the first pattern plastic helmet is closer to its steel model because of the flanged edge.
            Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:19 PM.

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              #7
              But the shape of the "dome" is still VERY different as this shot from the rear shows (plastic to the right, Steel to the left):

              The plastic one remains markedly rounder...
              Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:19 PM.

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                And now all three helmets together:
                From left to right

                FIRST pattern Plastic, Steel, SECOND pattern plastic:



                from the front

                Last edited by iannima; 10-13-2007, 03:20 PM.

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                  The general outcome is that BOTH plastic helmets are rather unfaithful copies of the steel version that is supposed to be their model. Why on earth this is the case, will remain a mystery...

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                    Now when the existence of this FIRST pattern parade helmet was mentioned on this forum, some time ago, I remember Michael remarking that he had not seen any photographic evidence of its actually being in use. Given how fuzzy photographs of the 1950s or early 60s can be and how deceptive these differences are, I would say that it is always very difficult to tell whether the first or the second pattern helmet is being used.
                    But there are two photographs where I believe one could venture the guess that it is actually the FIRST pattern being used. The difference that one should look for is in particular is the clear visibility of the rivets. These are VERY small in the second pattern, so if rivets are really macroscopic, one could postulate the hypothesis of a first pattern helmet. Secondly, because of it is rounder fuller dome, the first pattern helmet looks rather big, as if the soldier had been given the wrong size, but that is just because we are accustomed to the pointier, slimmer figure of the steel helmet.
                    Now for the photographs:
                    This one I have posted before and it is taken from the first coffee table book "Immer Gefechstbereid" dated 1961

                    Now obviously these soldiers do not wear a cuff title, but I have very little doubt that this is the Wachregiment in one of its earliest photographically documented apparition.
                    They just look too perfect to be an ordinary NVA unit and they are obviously performing a high profile ceremonial role -I believe- at the Soviet War memorial in Treptow. A prime Wachregiment role if there ever was one.
                    The point to note is how high the rivets show on the helmets of the officers in the foreground and how big the helmets themselves look. Far too big.
                    Last edited by iannima; 03-13-2007, 01:21 PM.

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                      And this is a photograph we all know as it shows the very first Große Wachaufzug in 1962, still without cuff title and published in the secons edition of the Keubke Kunz book.


                      Again notice how macroscopic and high the rivets are and how big and rather clumsy the helmets look on the head of the two officers flanking the flag.

                      I might be mad... Indeed I am sure that most of you already think that I am or I would not have given a pair of stinking plastic helmets a photosession worthy of a major celebrity... ... But I do think that these two photographs show the first pattern parade helmet in use... I am sure Michael will not be convinced, but I hope he will be entertained at least!

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                        Matteo,

                        Congratulations on the new Resin Parade Helmet you just acquired. Very nice.

                        Great pictures.

                        One point if I may. Although the helmet about which this thread pertains is an example of the first pattern Parade Helmet, it is not like the one about which I asked questions on a different thread. That particular helmet is shaped much differently, and predates the NVA by a few years.

                        I believe the Dark Collar Pics you posted in this thread show examples of the helmet you just acquired.

                        Compliments on a very nice collection of Parade Helmets.
                        Michael D. GALLAGHER

                        M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                          Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher View Post
                          it is not like the one about which I asked questions on a different thread. That particular helmet is shaped much differently, and predates the NVA by a few years.
                          Oh dear!! I have no idea what helmet you were talking about then! Has anybody got a photograph of it? Is it a plastic M54? Or would that be too easy?

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                            Matteo,

                            I've gone back and re-looked (is there such a word ?) the early parade helmet I've got, over. The dead give-away is how the rivets are attached. They are attached WWII or Wehrmacht style. Not sure if you were aware of this. I looked again at your pics and sure enough, barely peeking out, is this type of rivet fastener. Walla !!! Your helmet is similar to my helmet. What made me question this initially, is that the outward flare on my example is dramatically more pronounced than on your example. But I'm convinced both helmets are in fact the same.

                            The helmet I have is dated 1955. The NVA came into being in 1956. Muster Helmets were produced in 56, but no actual issue helmets were produced until 57. An example of a 56 Muster helmet has been provided by one of our esteemed German Colleagues. A review of the 1956 NVA Parade will disclose that the marching units were all wearing the Peaked or Visor Caps.

                            Consequently, I'm thinking this parade helmet was initially meant for wear by the Barracks or Kaserne Polizei. That it resembles the M-56 I think might be more a matter of luck than intention.

                            While I'm not sure 100% about the helmets in the first pic (Treptow); I am in agreement with you that the helmets in the second pic are in fact examples of this type of parade helmet.

                            Here is the example I have:
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                            Last edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 03-14-2007, 08:44 PM.
                            Michael D. GALLAGHER

                            M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                              Michael D. GALLAGHER

                              M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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