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    #31
    Hi Matteo,

    Watching the "Changing of the Guard" ceremony at the Neue Wache was something my 40th Armor colleagues and I always looked forward to when going over into East Berlin, and when doing so, was something we never missed.

    I was doubly fortunate in that my first four years stationed in West Berlin (78-82) happened to coincide with the transition of the guard unit from NVA-Wachregiment to Wachregiment Friedrich Engels.

    Matteo,

    Thanks for initiating this thread. I always find threads about the Wachregiments interesting and always learn something new each time a new thread is brought up. Memories about certain things fade, and it certainly helps to rejuvinate the old gray matter when these type threads are brought to the forefront.

    Interesting thread with respect to the initial picture. Still not sure what to make of it, but I cannot discount your hypothesis, as clearly the Tunic in question is there and cannot be otherwise explained.

    Cheers
    Michael D. GALLAGHER

    M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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      #32
      Originally posted by iannima View Post
      Sorry I don't think so...
      Here is another shot that must have been taken around 1989 or 1990 (moustache having only been allowed around that time). Neue Wache to the left, Zeughas to the right, trees and cars in between...
      Matteo - Unfortunately I can't see your photos at work since they have blocking software for many photo hosting sites, so Iwill take your word for it. I was thinking about watching the scene in Goodby Lenin tonight that shows the Coke truck driving past the Neue Wache, that's probably the best perspective of both the Neue Wache and Zeughas. I've really enjoyed this thread, it has brought back lots of memories. I've got many more photos on the Neue Wache somewhere, I'll have to dig them out.

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        #33
        Originally posted by iannima View Post
        That guy with the radio is not a VOPO but NVA and probably of the Wachregiment. He is wearing a brown belt despite only being a soldat which would indicate his uniform being made of officer gabardine cloth. And notice: no piping at the collar nor on the trousers. I believe these are the tunic and the trousers specific to the Wachregiment. But this is a different story from my first photograph because it is obvious that this guy is not in Paradeuniform but in Dienstuniform.

        Genosse iannima,
        The Wacheregiments scale of Norms is to wear Officer Quality cloth uniforms, the Uniform books says they work to officer scales, hence the Wearing of the Brown Belt.

        The earlier picture of the "Reggy" he is likely just wearing Dienstuniform,(as he is on normal duties) not the special Parade scales worn by the Wacheregiment when on special duties.

        This Command holds the Soldaten Jacket and Ausgang Trousers in Officer Quality material, both garments are cut to the Soldaten pattern.

        WIR BUILD

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          #34
          Originally posted by iannima View Post
          Sorry I don't think so...
          Here is another shot that must have been taken around 1989 or 1990 (moustache having only been allowed around that time). Neue Wache to the left, Zeughas to the right, trees and cars in between...
          Matteo - Indeed you are right...of course I had to look at an aerial photo from Google earth to be convinced! The red circle is where I thought they were but you can see by the trees and the cars in your second photo that they are leaving the Neue Wache going to the door in the Zeughas which I've marked with a red square.

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            #35
            If I remember correctly I think this may have been posted before somewhere. But anyway, for those of us who haven't had the pleasure of seeing the changing of the guard in person, here is the next best thing.
            http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+walk&hl=en

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              #36
              Originally posted by Viktor View Post
              This Command holds the Soldaten Jacket and Ausgang Trousers in Officer Quality material, both garments are cut to the Soldaten pattern.
              Which would roughly translate that you agree with me. Or would Moscow Centre object to such a bold statement?
              Do bear in mind, that we know from a veteran of the Wachregiment that they wore the black belt with their Ausganguniform unlike the Driezinsky who wore the brown one. But the same veteran told us that they wore the brown belt with their Dienstuniform, as in this case.
              The fact that the Wachregiment had so many items of clothing should not be a surprise because each one of them might be called to "impersonate" Luftstreikraefte and Volksmarine personnel for certain ceremonies.

              Gosh we do need that book!! I cannoot believe I ordered it some two years ago when it was due for publication and it has not found a publisher yet. Does anybody know anything else?

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                #37
                Matteo,

                Perhaps someone could pursuade the Author of the yet to be published book, to at least sell copies of the manuscript to collector's such as ourselves .....
                Michael D. GALLAGHER

                M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KevinH View Post
                  If I remember correctly I think this may have been posted before somewhere. But anyway, for those of us who haven't had the pleasure of seeing the changing of the guard in person, here is the next best thing.
                  http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+walk&hl=en
                  Here is a video of the even more impressive Gro******223;er Wachaufzug from 1989 (that is my birth year ).
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B242q0HTunY

                  The Wachregiment Friedrich Engels in all their glory!

                  Klaus

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by iannima View Post
                    Which would roughly translate that you agree with me. Or would Moscow Centre object to such a bold statement?
                    Do bear in mind, that we know from a veteran of the Wachregiment that they wore the black belt with their Ausganguniform unlike the Driezinsky who wore the brown one. But the same veteran told us that they wore the brown belt with their Dienstuniform, as in this case.
                    The fact that the Wachregiment had so many items of clothing should not be a surprise because each one of them might be called to "impersonate" Luftstreikraefte and Volksmarine personnel for certain ceremonies.

                    Gosh we do need that book!! I cannoot believe I ordered it some two years ago when it was due for publication and it has not found a publisher yet. Does anybody know anything else?
                    Genosse iannima,
                    Your statement was like a weak question , this Rezidents support of it is like the Very Stone of the Workers and Farmers State, ..... eternal!... .

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by iannima View Post
                      Which would roughly translate that you agree with me. Or would Moscow Centre object to such a bold statement?
                      Perhaps...After many years in military and later government service I've learned never to directly admit I may have been wrong.

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