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    Germany's Search for Communist Assets Comes to an End

    Hello all - An interesting article from Deutsche Welle dated 18 December 2006.

    The independent commission tasked with finding state wealth unaccounted for after the fall of communist East Germany has been dissolved after 16 years of work uncovered 1.6 billion euros ($2.10 billion).

    Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble said the commission had provided an "outstanding contribution to democracy in unified Germany."

    "The revolution in East Germany did not lead to a clean slate," he said at a ceremony marking the body's dissolution on Friday. "It did not, as other revolutions have done in the past, sweep everything away with it."

    The commission was called into life by East Germany's last prime minister, Lothar de Maiziere, to track down the "curious transfers" of money at the end of May 1990.

    Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Tracking money transferred out of the country has become too difficult, the commission said It examined what happened to assets owned by the governing communist Socialist Unity Party (SED) and other party organizations.

    "The German revolution was from this viewpoint not a real revolution, it remained -- thankfully -- incomplete," Schäuble added. "One of the consequences of this was, however, that the orderly processing of the past took time and effort."

    Most money found in Communist hands
    The money uncovered by the commission, nearly 73 percent of which was found to be in the hands of the SED and its successor, the Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS), was used to fund organizations researching East Germany's government, maintaining memorial sites and paying off loans incurred by the eastern German states.

    As the legal successor to the East German communists, the PDS, which was accused of attempting to hinder the commission's work, was briefly the wealthiest political party in Europe, due to its SED inheritance.

    Members of the commission said funds may still exist in Hungary as well as in Swiss bank accounts, but that international laws provided few options to reclaim any such money. In March, the commission recommended it be dissolved to legislators in January 2007.

    DW staff (sms)

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    I guess now I can pull out those hidden assets and post them...
    Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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    Originally posted by Ralph Pickard View Post

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    I guess now I can pull out those hidden assets and post them...
    exactly, I wonder how much of that wealth is hidden away in a secret bedroom somewhere in the wilds of Virginia... Cheers, Torsten...

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      #3
      Call me dumb, I guess, but I'm not sure I understand how this works. I thought with the exception of East German money that was in the actual hands of East German citizens, which then Chancellor Helmut Kohl graciously permitted them to turn into West German Banks for an exchange rate of 1 East Mark for 1 Deutch Mark, the rest of the currency was greatly devaluated, hence not worth very much.

      Did I miss something somewhere
      Michael D. GALLAGHER

      M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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        #4
        I suspect that the SED and other "mass" organizations may have had accounts ouside the DDR (think Swiss bank accounts) in currency other than the East Mark. They probably had time to move these assets prior to unification in 1990.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher View Post
          I thought with the exception of East German money that was in the actual hands of East German citizens, which then Chancellor Helmut Kohl graciously permitted them to turn into West German Banks for an exchange rate of 1 East Mark for 1 Deutch Mark, the rest of the currency was greatly devaluated, hence not worth very much.
          :
          Hi Michael, it was not quite as simple and 'gracious' as that. There were limits for anyone below 16 I think and then below 60 and above the age of 60 (not sure about the exact age groups anymore...) for how much one could exchange 1:1 and we are not talking a lot of money here and the rest was 1:2. Cheers, Torsten.

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            #6
            hello all,


            I dont know if I understand the article clearly but I am wondering if all that money ( $2.10 billion) were just in hands of the SED as a political party? the commission never investigated or find if the former leaders of the DDR could have in their personal accounts part of the money?


            thanks

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              #7
              Kevin,

              Makes since what you inferred. Money changed to currency of other countries, and then transferred to private bank accounts. But just the same, the East Mark was greatly devaluated and hence my question about the true value deemed to be unaccounted for.

              Torsten, thanks for the clarification.

              Humberto,

              I think the article Ralph posted is inferring the money is unaccounted for, specifically because it was moved from the SED Party Treasury, to Private Bank Accounts of certain High Ranking (Both Civilian & Military I would presume) East German Officials.
              Michael D. GALLAGHER

              M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                #8
                Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher View Post

                Humberto,

                I think the article Ralph posted is inferring the money is unaccounted for, specifically because it was moved from the SED Party Treasury, to Private Bank Accounts of certain High Ranking (Both Civilian & Military I would presume) East German Officials.

                Michael, thanks for the clarification!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher View Post
                  Kevin,

                  Makes since what you inferred. Money changed to currency of other countries, and then transferred to private bank accounts. But just the same, the East Mark was greatly devaluated and hence my question about the true value deemed to be unaccounted for.

                  Torsten, thanks for the clarification.

                  Humberto,

                  I think the article Ralph posted is inferring the money is unaccounted for, specifically because it was moved from the SED Party Treasury, to Private Bank Accounts of certain High Ranking (Both Civilian & Military I would presume) East German Officials.
                  Michael - Don't forget that the SED, and in turn high ranking SED officials, had access to very large amounts of foreign hard currency through a number of means - the Stasi, commercial trade and exchange of citizens for hard cash with West Germany to mention a few.

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                    #10
                    Do'h

                    Yea, that's right.
                    Guess the aluminum stuff could be of some value, then.
                    Michael D. GALLAGHER

                    M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                      #11
                      Torsten - I spent the weekend with my medal detector trying to find my buried bunker of assets again...so far I am still looking for the tree and rock to begin my searching quest...

                      Originally posted by torstenbel View Post
                      exactly, I wonder how much of that wealth is hidden away in a secret bedroom somewhere in the wilds of Virginia... Cheers, Torsten...
                      Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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