A Funker (7th Panzerdivision, Artillierieregiment 7, Batterie 12) sent me a scan of a paper he was given telling him what he was allowed to take with him out of the Volksarmee, around May 1990. It says:
N******228;hzeug 2x (here there is a check-mark with a pencil)
Briefpapier 2x (here there is a checkmark with an ink pen)
Schuhputzzeug 2x
Sicherheitsschl******246;sser 2x (checkmark in ink)
Rasierzeug 2x (checkmark in ink)
(davon 1 x Na******223;rasur)
Hausschuhe
Taschent******252;cher
Socken grau (checkmark in ink)
Kleiderb******252;gel
1 Karton
Schlafanzug oder Nachthemd
Verpflegung f******252;r 1 Tag
Ag 117/VI f 4-25/87-028
I was not sure if it was the norm, or a "going out of existence" arrangement.
Jon.
So it was a 1987 Form.
Normally they were allowed to keep Decorations, Reservistentücher but I never heard from Clothing. Normally they turned them in for recycling.
Nico
So it was a 1987 Form.
Normally they were allowed to keep Decorations, Reservistent******252;cher but I never heard from Clothing. Normally they turned them in for recycling.
Nico
of course you were allowed to keep decorations and the Reservistentuch you only got on the last day and during the E-Appell...but all issued items from boots, to uniforms, hats, etc. had to be turned in and had to be accounted for against the list in your Wehrdienstausweis...I left on 28th February 1990 and I had to still go through that routine...a couple of weeks/months later no-one bothered checking anything anymore and everyone just did what they wanted...and took what they wanted...re the list posted by Jon below, most of the items listed there, like pyjamas, shaving kit, padlocks, stationary, slippers, etc. were never issued to me as Army Issue kit in my 2 1/2 years in the army...but maybe it was different for EM's and NCO's and they got issued that stuff by the army..? Cheers, Torsten.
A Funker (7th Panzerdivision, Artillierieregiment 7, Batterie 12) sent me a scan of a paper he was given telling him what he was allowed to take with him out of the Volksarmee, around May 1990. It says:
N******228;hzeug 2x (here there is a check-mark with a pencil)
Briefpapier 2x (here there is a checkmark with an ink pen)
Schuhputzzeug 2x
Sicherheitsschl******246;sser 2x (checkmark in ink)
Rasierzeug 2x (checkmark in ink)
(davon 1 x Na******223;rasur)
Hausschuhe
Taschent******252;cher
Socken grau (checkmark in ink)
Kleiderb******252;gel
1 Karton
Schlafanzug oder Nachthemd
Verpflegung f******252;r 1 Tag
Ag 117/VI f 4-25/87-028
I was not sure if it was the norm, or a "going out of existence" arrangement.
Jon.
Jon
for me that looks like the list of the things which every conscript of the GDR had to bring in to the NVA for his official beginning of service. There were not all these things as a NVA version. (In the contrast there is everything at the Bundeswehr as an equipment.) Besides the N******228;hzeug, there were nice little etuis with special NVA-N******228;hzeug for selling in the MHO...
And if I am right, there must also be on list: a cup or drinking mug, the cutlery with case and a sponge-bag (=Kulturbeutel?).
The sign under the notice is for sure a NVA one.
In my opinion it is a list for bringing with you IN the NVA not for taking OUT...
AR-11:
Now that I look at what he named the image "mitzubringen" I realize that you are correct.
Jon.
Jon,
as an officer I got all my uniforms I owned with me out of the NVA.
Till 1991 we used the NVA-sportsuit also in the Bundeswehr, only with the "Eagle"-sticker instead the "ASV"-sticker. And the officers-"Sturmgepäck" we also used. All the other clothes we got new by Bundeswehr.
As far as I remember privates and NCO´s wasn´t allowed getting things with them. It was allowed only to professional soldiers
as an officer I got all my uniforms I owned with me out of the NVA.
Till 1991 we used the NVA-sportsuit also in the Bundeswehr, only with the "Eagle"-sticker instead the "ASV"-sticker. And the officers-"Sturmgepäck" we also used. All the other clothes we got new by Bundeswehr.
As far as I remember privates and NCO´s wasn´t allowed getting things with them. It was allowed only to professional soldiers
AR-11, Dirk
that was when it was Bundeswehr ...as I tried to explain in post 5, when I left the NVA in Feb 1990 I was not allowed to take anything, even as a professional soldier. Cheers, Torsten.
that was when it was Bundeswehr ...as I tried to explain in post 5, when I left the NVA in Feb 1990 I was not allowed to take anything, even as a professional soldier. Cheers, Torsten.
Torsten,
in Februar 1990 the NVA still existed.
As far as I know was nobody officially allowed, taking things out of the NVA. Even officers after finishing their service-time it wasn´t allowed to own ALL their uniforms. The equipment which was written down in the WDA had to be returned. Except of it were of course the written off equipment, uniforms e.t.c.
Torsten,
in Februar 1990 the NVA still existed.
As far as I know was nobody officially allowed, taking things out of the NVA. Even officers after finishing their service-time it wasn´t allowed to own ALL their uniforms. The equipment which was written down in the WDA had to be returned. Except of it were of course the written off equipment, uniforms e.t.c.
AR-11, Dirk
yes, correct...as I explained in post 5 of this thread, I had to return everything that was marked in my Wehrdienstausweis. Cheers, Torsten.
Torsten,
in Februar 1990 the NVA still existed.
As far as I know was nobody officially allowed, taking things out of the NVA. Even officers after finishing their service-time it wasn´t allowed to own ALL their uniforms. The equipment which was written down in the WDA had to be returned. Except of it were of course the written off equipment, uniforms e.t.c.
AR-11, Dirk
Dirk and all,
short term NCOs and conscripts had to return everything which was listed as issued in the WDA. But, as always, there were ways around it. It was a criminal offence and you risked improsenment, if found out. But I managed to get, at least, "my" tankers helmet out (which wasn't even listed as issued) and my FDU.
As mentioned before, all other stuff had to be returned, except, if I remember correctly, socks, handkies and collar liners (you were issued 3 or 5, but ended up buying plenty more).
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