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Thanks Kevin. It is interesting to see the quality changes from the ones made in the 1960s to the ones made in the 1980s.
Originally posted by ehrentitle View PostSomebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance groupComment
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Can anyone translate this sentence?: Soweit bekannt, erhielten die Teilnehmer am Einsatzort als Ärmelabzeichen das blaue UNO-Symbol.Originally posted by Garulfo View Post
I can't get it to translate properly through any online translator.
Also, if there is anymore UN related insignia in that book, I am interested. And what type of blue UN patch was used by DDR? I know there were several types (Used by all member nations, not just DDR).Last edited by willie777; 11-24-2007, 06:33 PM.Comment
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It translates roughly as: "As far as is known, the participants received the blue UNO symbol as an arm patch at the place of service".Originally posted by willie777 View Post
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Thanks.Originally posted by Klaus1989 View Post
So it most likely means that the blue UN patch was worn instead of the Staatswaapen patch? And is there any source stating which arm it was to be worn?Comment
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It's likely that both were worn. Usually the UN patch is worn on one sleeve and a patch identifying the contributing nation on the other. For example when I worked for the military staff of the UN Mission in Haiti we wore the US Flag patch and unit patch on one sleeve and the round UN patch on the other. As far as I know there was no hard and fast rule on which sleeve the UN patch would be work. Each contributing nation determined that.Originally posted by willie777 View PostComment
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Isn't the UN patch not authorized or not even legal to be worn by US uniform? I think thats what some guy named Micheal New argued when he got court martialed for not following orders...Originally posted by ehrentitle View PostComment
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All US members of the HQ UNMIH, including the Major General force commander wore it. Here is a photo of the force Legal Advisor (left), MAJ Mark S. Ackerman wearing it:
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I was doing some random surfing on DDR at one of my photo sharing sites and ran across this article on 30 DDR Police observers deploying to Namibia. It's not a complete article and the date and source of the paper is not identified. Could someone who reads German better than I provide a summary of the article in English? It says something about wearing UN insignia on the arm of the national uniform along with the Blue beret worn during a 6 month tour in Namibia.
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I did some digging in the Archives and came across this article with photo on page 7 of Volksarmee Issue 45/1989-
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It will be interesting to read the translation of the articles you have posted which will be better than my translation...
Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance groupComment
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Ralph, Translating is a painful process for me and my grade school German. I'll leave it to the more experienced hands here. The second article appears to be just a general overview of the UN mission, the photo is probably the most interesting part. KevinOriginally posted by Ralph Pickard View PostIt will be interesting to read the translation of the articles you have posted which will be better than my translation...Comment
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Hey kevin - I am in agreement with you...leave it to the pros...
Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance groupComment
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Interesting to see blue UN berets in use with VOPO uniforms. Did not know the berets were worn by DDR observers, just patches. It is hard to tell what patch the Polizist commanding the formation in first photo is wearing on his left arm but it appears to be the Staatswappen so Kevin was right - UN patch on right arm, Staatswappen on left.
Anyone know if DDR observers stayed in Namibia until 1 April 1990 to complete mission like the first articles states? Or did they leave due to the new government and political changes taking place in DDR at that time?
KlausLast edited by Klaus1989; 12-26-2007, 10:33 PM.Comment
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Klaus - It's an indeed interesting topic. I didn't realize so few VOPO went to Namibia. I don't know of they stayed 6 months. I suspect they stayed and integrated with the West German police element, but I don't have any documentation on this.
I did run across an interesting article in German that talks about 425 Namibian children of SWAPO fighters who were brought to the DDR in the 1980s and forced to return to Namibia in 1990. Some who had been in the DDR almost 10 years identified themselves a German's and could not relate to Namibian culture nor could they speak the language. "One lived as a child 10 years long in a nice community and in a bed with white sheets slept and two days later one sleeps on the floor in a Kral under humans."
The article also says that there are about 25,000 Germans living in Namibia, mostly farmers. Some of these Germans provided them lodging, schooling and training.
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