Hello, can anyone confirm what sword this is? It looks to me like an NVA sword but what concerns me is that it doesn't apear to be any staatswappen on it.
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It could be possible that the sword is older than the DDR, maybe pre-WWII. I have some German Officer swords in my collection that are the same design as my East German sword but they are WWII ones.Comment
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I haven't handled or seen a NVA Sword in real but could it be possible,that the Staatswappen is only on one side
and the photo just shows the other side.
The Staatswappen is the first Thing to look for on a NVA Sword,maybe the Seller did want to show it on purpose.don't know
RegardsComment
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ooops, after reading an older Thread about NVA Swords,forget what I just said,the Staatswappen is on each Side. Just the Handle looks different on your Sword.Comment
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The Staatswappen is on only one side. On all three of my original swords the Staatswappen is located on the same side. This would be the side that is showing on the sword in the photo that is posted.Comment
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Firstly NVA swords were modelled on earlier Prussian designs. The Staatwappen would be shown precisely on the side in the photographs and there are no signs that it has fallen off. So there are a number of conjectures that one can make:
a) this cannot be the more ordinary reproduction NVA swords with a Muetzenkokarde stuck on the hilt as Staawappen as those are all of the later model with a much more curved blade. The blade in this one is much straighter;
b) It could be an original straight blade NVA sword where for some unknown reason the Staatwappen has not been engraved in the hilt, (very unlikely);
c) It could be earlier than the DDR but still original. A Prussian NCO sword in either the Imperial Army, the Reichswehr or the Wehrmacht, I believe would have looked very much like this one. It looks a trifle too well preserved to be of that vintage. I would say very unlikely again;
d) It is a reproduction of a sword mentioned under c) above. I have seen a Napoleonic times Prussian Bluecher sabre for sale on the catalogue of a major German surplus dealer. These things are reproduction showpieces and are sold between €70-100. I would say this last one is the most likely case.
It looks very nice and I would be eager to purchase it even in the full knowledge of its being a reproduction, but then I use these swords...
How much is the dealer asking for it?Comment
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BoneCollector,
I think your sword is a standard WWII period Mannschaftss******228;bel. What is the maker mark on the ricasso of the blade? This would tell us the time period as these were worn from Imperial through the NS Zeit.Comment
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Here is a shot of my 3 NVA swords. The middle one was missing the Staatswappen so I made a temperary one. This shows the differences in the hand and grip style. All three are serial numbered on the other side.Comment
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Here is a shot of one of my NVA sabers with two German pre-WWII dress sabers. The grips are almost the same but the blades vary in curve. The pre-WWII sabers have a celluiod plastic type grip and the NVA one is a black leather. I think the saber you posted is a pre-WWII or WWII area dress.Comment
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Hallo,es gab mindestens 2Varianten vom NVA Säbel.Die erste Variante wird wohl der WW2 gewesen sein-bis jemand auffiel des das Staatzwappen fehlt.Originally posted by GREENEDUDLEYComment
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BildOriginally posted by OSTDEUTSCHLANDComment
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BildOriginally posted by OSTDEUTSCHLANDComment
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According to W. Kopenhagen "Die Mot Schuetzen der NVA" page 38 there are as many as FIVE versions of NVA swords and not just two as Keubke Kunz state.
I still maintain that the one with which this thread was initiated is either an NCO one pre-1945 or a reproduction thereof.Comment
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.....FIVE versions????Sind da Fotos dabei??Originally posted by iannimaComment
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