Cold War in Europe trivia thread...

[AR-11]

Hmmm Mike,

you´re an old Berlin-man. If I read your answers, I think that my English was not good sometimes again.
I mine none of the places called by you.

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[AR-11]

shall I give a hint?

It was called like a swimming bird´s mouth...

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[Soviet]

Mauerpark, Prenzlauer Berg ???

Eberswalder Straße/Schwedter Straße

[AR-11]

no, sorry, Soviet.
The place I´m asking for was a part of Eastern-Berlin and far reached to Berlin - West. On account of his typical form (waterfowl beak) he received his name in the vernacular.

It is not a park I´m looking for.
It is a typically German thing: an allotment cottage association.

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[AR-11]

Okay, I see my question was too hard. I asked for this: "Entenschnabel"
Wikipeda definies it so:

"Ducks beak
At the so named ducks beak in the north of Berlin, the Berlin Wall formed one its most absurd forms. The street at the sand pitcher in the Brandenburg community Glienicke/north train east to juts in a narrow strip – the ducks beak – from west to Berlin in; after the allied division therefore to west-Berlin (Frohnau), the popular garden settlement became through the wall building of three sides firmly on circle and of the remaining world locked, it only entirely dependable GDR-citizens might were there (that anyway Or furniture suppliers needed a special permission. Occasionally the inhabitants could not also out of its house, for also they had to depend on the special rules for boundary zone. "

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[Ralph P]

Hey Dirk...Sorry that I was not able to come close in answering your question. I could not find an answer.

I find your answer interesting to the trivia question. Thanks for the geographic trivia.

Okay, I see my question was too hard. I asked for this: "Entenschnabel"
Wikipeda definies it so:

"Ducks beak
At the so named ducks beak in the north of Berlin, the Berlin Wall formed one its most absurd forms. The street at the sand pitcher in the Brandenburg community Glienicke/north train east to juts in a narrow strip – the ducks beak – from west to Berlin in; after the allied division therefore to west-Berlin (Frohnau), the popular garden settlement became through the wall building of three sides firmly on circle and of the remaining world locked, it only entirely dependable GDR-citizens might were there (that anyway Or furniture suppliers needed a special permission. Occasionally the inhabitants could not also out of its house, for also they had to depend on the special rules for boundary zone. "

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[AR-11]

Sorry again, that my question was to dificult.
I will do a new one:

In November 1949 in Paris was foundet a new orgaization. It´s major task consisted in preventing that high-tec material got in certain hands.

1. What was the name of this organization?
2. Witch two NATO-members were not members of this organization?

In the DDR there was a (secret) company with the first task, even though to procure High-Tec. Also, of course, other luxus-things buying from or selling to the West.

3. What was the name of this company?
4. Who was the boss?

good luck,
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[Ralph P]

Hey Dirk...Here goes my attempt to answer your trivia question.

The first part of your question
1. COCOM - Coordinating Committee for multi-lateral Export Control.
2. Spain and Iceland.

Second part of your question
1. KOKO - Bereich Kommerzieller Koorinierung
2. Erich Meilke

Question for you Dirk...who was Wolfgang Vogel?

Sorry again, that my question was to dificult.
I will do a new one:

In November 1949 in Paris was foundet a new orgaization. It´s major task consisted in preventing that high-tec material got in certain hands.

1. What was the name of this organization?
2. Witch two NATO-members were not members of this organization?

In the DDR there was a (secret) company with the first task, even though to procure High-Tec. Also, of course, other luxus-things buying from or selling to the West.

3. What was the name of this company?
4. Who was the boss?

good luck,
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[AR-11]

Hey Dirk...Here goes my attempt to answer your trivia question.

The first part of your question
1. COCOM - Coordinating Committee for multi-lateral Export Control.
2. Spain and Iceland.

Second part of your question
1. KOKO - Bereich Kommerzieller Koorinierung
2. Erich Meilke

Question for you Dirk...who was Wolfgang Vogel?

Great job, Ralph! Concratulations!
Three questions are 100% right answered. But the boss of KOKO was Oberst Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski (and his boss was Erich Mielke...).
It´s your turn now, Ralph.

If I remember right: Dr. Wolfgang Vogel was a G.D.R.-lawyer. His major task was it, people of the east after west and vice versa to "transfer".
He was the main official contact of the GDR for agent's exchange, to ransoms of people etc.
Here is a link to a site of MDR-TV-station. I translate it below...

http://www.mdr.de/doku/1313324-hintergrund-1311163.html

"Biography: Wolfgang Vogel

W.Vogel was born on the 30th October, 1925 in Silesia was after his law exam at first a head consultant in the Ministry of Justice of the GDR. In 1954 he sat down as a lawyer in East Berlin and was admitted in 1957 also to west Berliner to courts. In 1961 the 36-year-old Vogel organized the first agent's trade of the cold war: The US-spy pilot Gary Powers shot over the Soviet Union was exchanged for unmasked KGB colonel Rudolf Abel.
The successful deal, at the break of dawn 10th February on the Glienicker bridge in Potsdam carried out, was the beginning of the unprecedented career of Wolfgang Vogel. Till 1989 he was involved in the release of 150 agents from 23 lands, under it also of the "chancellor's spy" with Willy Brandt, Günther Guillaume. A central role played Vogel also with the "ransoms" of nearly 34,000 political prisoners by the FRG and as a drop-in center for about 215,000 crossing the border-willing GDR citizens.
After the breakdown of the GDR he appeared as a defender of Erich Honecker, laid down this mandate, nevertheless, in October, 1990. The next year he also renounced his licensing as a lawyer. Since beginning of the 90s reproaches piled up against Wolfgang Vogel, among the rest, because of state security service cooperation. In 1992 he put away to have cooperated as "IM Eva" or "IM Georg" in the 50s with the MfS.
The court of justice Vogel spoke without notes of the reproach of the extortion of crossing the border-willing GDR citizens in the last authority in 1998, nevertheless, convictions of the Berlin district court because perjury charge and document forgeries continued. During the processes Vogel received assistance from politicians like Hans-Dietrich Genscher and Helmut Schmidt. Wolfgang Vogel is married in the second marriage. Two children come from the first marriage."

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[Ralph P]

Hey Dirk...thanks for the trivia. I for sure enjoyed your questions since part of your question involved the STASI. Also you are right about Vogel...thanks.

I have a trivia question in mind, but I need to go and write it up. Will be right back...

Great job, Ralph! Concratulations!
Three questions are 100% right answered. But the boss of KOKO was Oberst Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski (and his boss was Erich Mielke...).
It´s your turn now, Ralph.

If I remember right: Dr. Wolfgang Vogel was a G.D.R.-lawyer. His major task was it, people of the east after west and vice versa to "transfer".
He was the main official contact of the GDR for agent's exchange, to ransoms of people etc.
Here is a link to a site of MDR-TV-station. I translate it below...

http://www.mdr.de/doku/1313324-hintergrund-1311163.html

"Biography: Wolfgang Vogel

W.Vogel was born on the 30th October, 1925 in Silesia was after his law exam at first a head consultant in the Ministry of Justice of the GDR. In 1954 he sat down as a lawyer in East Berlin and was admitted in 1957 also to west Berliner to courts. In 1961 the 36-year-old Vogel organized the first agent's trade of the cold war: The US-spy pilot Gary Powers shot over the Soviet Union was exchanged for unmasked KGB colonel Rudolf Abel.
The successful deal, at the break of dawn 10th February on the Glienicker bridge in Potsdam carried out, was the beginning of the unprecedented career of Wolfgang Vogel. Till 1989 he was involved in the release of 150 agents from 23 lands, under it also of the "chancellor's spy" with Willy Brandt, Günther Guillaume. A central role played Vogel also with the "ransoms" of nearly 34,000 political prisoners by the FRG and as a drop-in center for about 215,000 crossing the border-willing GDR citizens.
After the breakdown of the GDR he appeared as a defender of Erich Honecker, laid down this mandate, nevertheless, in October, 1990. The next year he also renounced his licensing as a lawyer. Since beginning of the 90s reproaches piled up against Wolfgang Vogel, among the rest, because of state security service cooperation. In 1992 he put away to have cooperated as "IM Eva" or "IM Georg" in the 50s with the MfS.
The court of justice Vogel spoke without notes of the reproach of the extortion of crossing the border-willing GDR citizens in the last authority in 1998, nevertheless, convictions of the Berlin district court because perjury charge and document forgeries continued. During the processes Vogel received assistance from politicians like Hans-Dietrich Genscher and Helmut Schmidt. Wolfgang Vogel is married in the second marriage. Two children come from the first marriage."

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[Ralph P]

Hello all...For this round the trivia is going to center round a Soviet KGB spy who was arrested for spying in the United States.

Background: The spy who was arrested for spying in the United States was Rudolf Abel. Abel was arrested by the FBI in 1957 and sentenced to 30 years in prison. In February 1962, Rudolf Abel was exchanged with U2 pilot Francis Gary Powers who was a prisoner of the Soviet Union and the exchanged took place at the Glienicker Bridge, Berlin. After Rudolf Abel was exchanged, he lived the remaining days in the Soviet Union and passed away on November 1971. During the Cold War Rudolf Abel was remembered by the East German STASI ranging from classroom discussions to items being made of him.

Trivia question:
1. Where and when was Rudolf Abel born?
2. What was Rudolf Abel’s true name?
3. What was the name of the well known English spy ring Abel was involved with?

[Mike G.]

RE: Rudolf ABEL, aka William FISCHER

Trivia question:
1. Where and when was Rudolf Abel born?

Newcastle, July 1903.

2. What was Rudolf Abel’s true name?
William FISCHER.
Note: The real Rudolf ABEL was Fischer's co-worker. He was born in Riga, Latvia on September 23, 1900, and died in 1955.<O</O

3. What was the name of the well known English spy ring Abel was involved with?
Philby Group? <!-- / message -->

[Ralph P]

Hey Mike...Congrats!!! You got all three questions correct. The third question was the Philby spy ring or also known as the Cambridge spy ring.

Trivia question:
1. Where and when was Rudolf Abel born?

Newcastle, July 1903.

2. What was Rudolf Abel’s true name?
William FISCHER.
Note: The real Rudolf ABEL was Fischer's co-worker. He was born in Riga, Latvia on September 23, 1900, and died in 1955.<O</O

3. What was the name of the well known English spy ring Abel was involved with?
Philby Group? <!-- / message -->

[Mike G.]

Well this really sucks, cause now I have to come up with a Trivia question, which I'm really not all that good at.

Bummer.

Okay, I'll be out of the net all morning and most of the afternoon. So it will be late afternoon before I pop a new question up on the board. Hope that is okay.

[Ralph P]

Hey Mike...no problem take your time...

Well this really sucks, cause now I have to come up with a Trivia question, which I'm really not all that good at.

Bummer.

Okay, I'll be out of the net all morning and most of the afternoon. So it will be late afternoon before I pop a new question up on the board. Hope that is okay.