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    Hello Torsten,

    Very well done. You answered all three questions correctly.

    The answers are:

    1). Steinstücken. This small Dorf consisted of about 15 homes, a Gasthaus, a Bakery, Butcher Shop, Post Office and Bus Stop. I never really felt the oppression of the "Wall" in Berlin until on the occasional weekend, when I and another friend, would venture off to Steinstücken. The wall would suddenly open up to a very narrow cobble stoned street that ran about 200 meters with the "Wall" encroaching on both sides. There also were several "Watch Towers" along either side of the Wall. It was very austere and very oppressive. Then suddenly it popped open to the small Dorf of Steinstücken.

    2 & 3). To the surprise of many, General Luscious D. CLAY was brought back to Berlin. Upon learning of the demise of Steinstücken, he and President John F. KENNEDY embarked on a plan of action to save the little village. General CLAY himself, flew into Steinstücken in a helicopter. When it touched down, he stepped out and surveyed the construction of the Wall that was going to cut it off from Berlin. It didn't take the East Germans and Russians long to figure out who he was. Upon confirmation, they panicked. One thing led to another, and before anyone realized it, they had actually built the Wall around Steinstücken. While it seemed to insure the village was safe, for years afterwards, the Russians harrassed the populace of that small Dorf. They would without warning stop all traffic from leaving or entering. Eventually they would back off, only to engage in this type of activity again. A small contingent of Military Police would be flown in, in shifts, to help safeguard the little village. The confrontations with the Soviets went on and on until in 1972, an official written agreement finally settled the matter. After that, the residents of Steinstücken were pretty much left in peace, until the fall of the Wall in 1989.

    For a time, a monument comprised of two crossed helicopter rotor blades marked the spot where Gen. CLAY first set down. I doubt this monument today is still there, and doubt very many people even recall that this happened.

    Well done Torsten. You are now again in the "Hot Seat". I hope some other members start participating so we get some other challenges going.
    Michael D. GALLAGHER

    M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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      Michael, thank you very much. I think that monument with the helicopter blades is actually still there...but I am not sure about it...re the next question, I want to scan a photo for it as part of the question but I can only do it when I get home tonight and I will post the question then...I also hope of course that more people will try and participate...Cheers, Torsten. (ebay id german.militaria).

      Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
      Hello Torsten,

      Very well done. You answered all three questions correctly.
      Well done Torsten. You are now again in the "Hot Seat". I hope some other members start participating so we get some other challenges going.

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        Hey Mike and Torsten...that was for a very interesting and educational round.

        Hey Torsten, I will be interested in seeing the photos...don't wait to long...
        Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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          I just discovered your thread.

          Is the Cold War in Europe trivia all about the DDR or this is also for general questions about Eastern Europe ? Just wanted to know ?

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            OK. Here is the next question round...but I do think that this one will be a little easier for everyone....the photograph below shows me (standing at the far left) as an NVA Army Officer Cadet at the end of the second year and as Zugfuehrer of a small unit. The photo was taken in the early summer of 1989. Here are the questions:

            1. What are the guys I was having to lead there for two weeks? Which organisation do they belong to and why am I with them and why are they with me?
            2. When was the organisation founded that this group belonged to (the year is sufficient.
            3. How many members did the organisation have at the end of the 1980's (you should be within 100,000 of the actual number to be credited the question).

            I do think that this one will be a little easier to answer than the previous questions...

            And here is the photo:
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              and here is a bit more of a close up of me with the guy next to me...so, you can get a better idea of the type of uniform that my 'underlings' are wearing... ... good luck with the questions.... Cheers, Torsten.
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                Hey Soviet...Welcome to the thread. To answer your question, YES your questions can involve European trivia during the Cold War.

                Originally posted by Soviet
                I just discovered your thread.


                Is the Cold War in Europe trivia all about the DDR or this is also for general questions about Eastern Europe ? Just wanted to know ?
                Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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                  Hey Torsten...very interesting round you have started. To help assist in answering your question. I am going to say they are GST cadets and I have posted a link to assist in the uniform they are wearing.

                  http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...ad.php?t=70123

                  Now...I'm off to find I hope the other answers to your questions...
                  Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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                    Ralph, good try...yes they are GST... keep trying for the rest... Cheers, Torsten.

                    PS: But did you not first think they were FDJ?? or did I initially misread your answer?

                    Originally posted by Ralph Pickard
                    Hey Torsten...very interesting round you have started. To help assist in answering your question. I am going to say they are GST cadets and I have posted a link to assist in the uniform they are wearing.Now...I'm off to find I hope the other answers to your questions...

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                      well, and for a little more info...here is a photo of me in the underling's role about six years earlier in June 1983. I am the blond one in the middle row and far left...the bloke standing to the left behind me is the officer cadet who was our Zugfuehrer...I was deputy Zugfuehrer and Gruppenfuehrer...Cheers, Torsten.
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                        and here is another close up of the 1983 version of the same thing that I attended as the Zugfuehrer in 1989...(I am the Blondie... ) and I have no idea, why I did not go to the hairdresser more often in those days... Cheers, Torsten (ebay id german.militaria).
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                          Alright...here my attempt to answer question two and three.

                          2. 07 August 1952.
                          3. 1989; 900,000.
                          Last edited by Ralph Pickard; 05-10-2005, 03:40 PM. Reason: To add day and month to answer
                          Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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                            Hey Torsten...Yes it was initially said FDJ, but I was having computer problems trying to correct it to GST...sorry you saw it...



                            Originally posted by torstenbel
                            Ralph, good try...yes they are GST... keep trying for the rest... Cheers, Torsten.

                            PS: But did you not first think they were FDJ?? or did I initially misread your answer?
                            Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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                              Question #2

                              The Gesellschaft für Sport und Technik (GST) was introduce by the SED in 1953 under the recommandation of Moscow and was one of many paramilitary organisation from the NVA. It was a "vormilitärischen Ausbildung". If I can translate it like a pre-military education.

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                                Ok Ralph typed faster than me.

                                http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesells...rt_und_Technik

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