Yugoslavian Regimental Flag?

[Neb]

I recently had the opportunity to purchase this flag, but am unsure of what it is exactly. The writing seems to say “9th Montenegrin NOU Brigade” (Which seems to also have been called the 9th Montenegrin Shock Brigade?) above the star and "Death to fascism freedom to the people" below it (this is a WW2 Partisan saying). The seller said it was a WW2 Yugoslav Partisan flag and it measures 235X155cm. Unfortunately the pictures aren't great but these are the best I have. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

https://imgur.com/a/Qle4iho

[oldflagswanted]

Very interesting ...

Yugoslavian Regimental Flag?
I recently had the opportunity to purchase this flag,
but am unsure of what it is exactly. The writing seems
to say “9th Montenegrin NOU Brigade” (Which seems
to also have been called the 9th Montenegrin Shock
Brigade?) above the star and "Death to fascism freedom
to the people" below it (this is a WW2 Partisan saying).
The seller said it was a WW2 Yugoslav Partisan flag and
it measures 235X155cm. Unfortunately the pictures aren't
great but these are the best I have. Any help is appreciated,
thanks! https://imgur.com/a/Qle4iho

Hello Neb:
Interesting 9th MNOUB unit flag, with wide tress edged
center star, letter sewing, and with only fly end fringe.
WW2 examples I've noted have metallic woven gilt tress
star edging and gilt woven lettering, and 3 sided fringe.
.......OFW

(below) Photos now on WAF server.

[Neb]

Hello Neb:
Interesting 9th MNOUB unit flag, with wide tress edged
center star, letter sewing, and with only fly end fringe.
WW2 examples I've noted have metallic woven gilt tress
star edging and gilt woven lettering, and 3 sided fringe.
.......

Do you think that this would be post war then? Or a wartime flag with abnormal construction? Thanks for the help

[oldflagswanted]

Yugoslavian Regimental Flags ...

... WW2 examples I've noted have metallic woven gilt tress
star edging and gilt woven lettering, and 3 sided fringe.
.......OFW

(below) As cited WW2 examples.

[oldflagswanted]

Imo ???

Do you think that this would be post war then?
Or a wartime flag with abnormal construction?
Thanks for the help

Neb:
IDK. Maybe period, or commemorative,
or theatrical. Would need provenance
to say more, like material burn test, &
if ever pole mounted, unit listed in OB?
OFW

[oldflagswanted]

IMO an overt repro example ...

... listed as a "RARE Original Yugoslavia Partisan Flag
The flag was made in honor of famous Partisan brigade
"17th Majevicka N.O. Udarna Brigada". The Flag was
double sided, with cyrillic and latin alphabet. The flag
was used in celebrated of famous WW2 partisan battles
Great condition, Size: 160cm(62") x 80cm (31")"
$379 USD Buy-It-Now price.
OFW
(below) Listing photos.

[Schlange]

Its not my area of interest, but Oldflagswanted stated - WW2 Yugoslavian flag, and in book scan is staded JNA flag.
JNA (Jugoslavenska narodna Armija) name was founded in 1951. Before that was JA. (Jugoslavenska Armija.)
NOVJ (Narodno-oslobodilačaka Vojska Jugoslave) was founded from 1941 to 1945.


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[Neb]

Neb:
IDK. Maybe period, or commemorative,
or theatrical. Would need provenance
to say more, like material burn test, &
if ever pole mounted, unit listed in OB?
OFW

The flag is coming from Sarajevo so it will take a while to get here, but once it does what should I look for? In the past I have seen what I believe to be commemorative flags (although they may just be fakes as well) but they are made in a completely different way (no fringe, stenciled lettering and features a famous name (like a general or something) above the star and a date below it instead of the saying). I was able to find evidence that the 9. Montenegrin NOU Brigade does indeed exist, but as far as the burn test and evidence of mounting what traits should I look for, and is there anything else I can do? Thanks for the help

[oldflagswanted]

Yugo Army Info ...

... JNA (Jugoslavenska narodna Armija) name was
founded in 1951. Before that was JA. (Jugoslavenska
Armija.) NOVJ (Narodno-oslobodilačaka Vojska Jugoslave)
was founded from 1941 to 1945.
Schlange ...

Hello Schlange:
Thanks for the Yugoslavian forces title & date info.
Indeed lots to learn about this, such as online here.
OFW
(below) From as cited info link.

[oldflagswanted]

Things to look for ???

The flag is coming from Sarajevo ... what should I look for?
... I have seen what I believe to be commemorative flags ...
they are made in a completely different way (no fringe,
stenciled lettering and features a famous name ... the 9.
Montenegrin NOU Brigade does indeed exist, but as far as
the burn test and evidence of mounting what traits should
I look for, and is there anything else I can do? Thanks ...

Neb:
Burn test results of loose threads = ash, not hard micro-ball.
Pole slip sleeve ends should have pin holes where mounted.
What did you pay for this flag? Less than $200, just curious?

[Neb]

Neb:
Burn test results of loose threads = ash, not hard micro-ball.
Pole slip sleeve ends should have pin holes where mounted.
What did you pay for this flag? Less than $200, just curious?

I got it for $175 with a small return period (3 days), normally I don't like to take risks like this but it wasn't much and if it is something like a unit standard (although it isn't looking like it) then it would definitely be worth it.

[Schlange]

I found some exsamples of NOVJ WW2 flags in my books:






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[Neb]

I found some exsamples of NOVJ WW2 flags in my books:

That's very interesting, they seem to vary somewhat but I would say that the overall style of them is very similar to mine, would you agree? Thanks for the resource, I was having a hard time finding concrete things.

[Schlange]

Its hard to say for me, since is not my area of knowledge.


Schlange

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[oldflagswanted]

Previously on the WAF ...

... from 2012 t=632803 post #31 by WAF member PBR,
an "Italo-German unit [captured] ... Yugo partisan flag."
OFW
(below) As cited photo. Flag appears to have odd
order of stripe colors - i.e., white/blue/red, rather
than normal blue/white/red. If up for sale today,
without the period photo, who would believe it real?