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    M43 Kitel tunic NKVD branch

    After showing my white summer Rail/train Kitel I have decided to acquire a regular brown one to display with it.
    I came across this NKVD blue piped one which I purchased yesterday, so not in hand yet... Will take a while as mail from Russia is slow!
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    Here some detail shots of the piping, a darker blue, definitely not air force sky blue!
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      More...
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        #4
        Is the NKVD branch the most sought after color?
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          #5
          You can tell it had some interesting badges on it at one time!
          Definitely a Guards badge in the center. Even though such uniforms are hard to date,
          its definitely from somebody that saw action during the Great War!
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            Questions

            (1) can it be displayed with blue pants with red striped piping?
            or should the piping always be blue, as shown in the color plate ?

            or was red striped (generic) officers breeches only an early war time thing for NKVD?
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              2nd question:
              It obviously lacks shoulderboards....
              I read that pointed 5 sided boards are appropriate for a M43 (war time use) uniform...
              but I also read that the 6 sided (1947) ones for junior ranks (post war) were actually also war time used for State Security troops (NKVD),
              so OK for a war time M43 tunic.

              Would a 6 sided set be OK to use? So not necessarily post war if its NKVD related...correct?

              Trident sells these repro NKVD 5 sided (pointed) boards... as accurate for war time...so are both possible?

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soviet-WW2-N...-/381419257882

              See Rick Research comments in this thread...

              http://gmic.co.uk/topic/932-soviet-o...nsignia-1930s/

              (image borrowed from thread)
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                #8
                I am considering this set...blue center stripe is faded and looks more like airforce sky blue now...but I think these would be OK for it!

                Thoughts? or are they more airforce in color? I think its close enough and suitable for this uniform. Would love to get answers to these questions !
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                  #9
                  Nice tunic. Holes from awards seem to be sewn closed, which may suggest post war demilitarized use. It was pretty common to wear ex military clothing after the war. That's why shoulder boards are missing and loops are probably restored,

                  Jack

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                    Thanks for commenting. Could very well be demilitarized at one point....It will be interesting to see if the buttons are dated...
                    but those could have been restored to it (like the loops if those are indeed replacements...) Who knows?

                    Either way it will look sharp with the blue KKVD colored shoulder boards back on it + Guards & proficiency badges in place!
                    The next step will be to find a blue topped NKVD visor! (like the one shown below!)

                    So what about RED striped breeches question? (standard Soviet officers kit) ...
                    Still OK for NKVD??? like this web image group shows... (of a much earlier impression) or is blue piped stripes a must?
                    (for later NKVD impressions, like 1945 victory parade). I am relatively new to this...wanting to learn! (I've seen both....)
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                      or???
                      (Commissars ABAKUMOV, MERKULOV AND BERIA, State Security powers)
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                        I hink shoulder boards in post #8 are AF.

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                          Originally posted by Komandir RKKA View Post
                          I think shoulder boards in post #8 are AF.
                          yeah they do look a little lighter blue (sky blue) than NKVD Royal Blue...
                          Here are the back views...one picture shows a lighter color than the other..
                          but they are the SAME set...Its the photography...the lighting conditions I guess...

                          So if the real color is more like the 2nd image I agree Airforce would be a better fit...

                          What about the trousers question?
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                            Kommandir Thanks for sending me pictures of your NKVD set!
                            Boards are 1945-46 model - used gold metal thread instead of silk as explained.

                            So the NKVD never used 5 angle (pointy) boards (same with the Soviet Navy).
                            Good to know!
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