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    CCCP plaque

    Anyone know that this is ? Does it have any value?
    About 12" x 8"
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    #2
    It is similar to it? Tell the sizes in centimeters pls.

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      #3
      it would be around 30x20cm
      I dont own it so I dont have any exact measures

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        #4
        Your plaque from the railway car of the USSR. In Russia its price of 50-70 dollars. A material aluminium? http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=32775
        If it from bronze, the price another. http://msk.molotok.ru/item1385318934..._32h26_sm.html
        And more - a material aluminium. http://spb.molotok.ru/item1389769587_gerb_sssr.html
        Last edited by Uno; 12-29-2010, 09:28 AM.

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          #5
          I got it today material i aluminum and it dont have any hanging devices on the back so I think its a copy of an original one.

          Anyone have a orginal one that would like to share some photos of back and front?

          Where or are these made as souvenirs?

          thank you
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            #6
            Hundreds of these were acquired back in the 1990s by an American company called Sovietski and sold through its catalog. Most were sandblasted to clean them up and make them shiny. Many had a couple of holes drilled in them so the buyers could hang them on their walls. Even though they came from railcars, I believe that the original ads billed them as having come from the fronts of Soviet buildings - probably because a Sovietski copywriter thought that the building reference sounded sexier or because whomever was shipping them from Russia claimed that (I once spoke to Sovietski and they honestly admitted that they were almost completely dependent upon their suppliers for the descriptions they used in their catalogs...)

            So, someone in Russia acquired these plaques, probably as scrap, cleaned them up, removed most if not all of the attachment devices from their reverses and then exported them en masse. Personally, unlike Third Reich railway eagles about which there is general agreement as to what constitutes an original , I think that the cleaning process has made many if not most Soviet railway plaques really hard to be certain about.

            Regards

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              #7
              Thank you for some great infor there Mathomhaus!!

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                #8
                I actually have a few of those catalogs saved in my archives. I recall they were quite fun to browse back in 1999-2001. When looking in them now, the prices that then seemed to be expensive would nowadays be considered bargains.

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                  #9
                  Glad to be of help!

                  Over the decades, a number of Soviet railcar insignias were also made of solid iron. I haven't seen any in a few years, but as I recall some had crossed wrenches at the bottom that were separately attached and some had them permanently fastened just below the USSR state emblem. Hugely heavy, I'd think that the iron patterns probably haven't been reproduced. Many iron ones also have paint on them; some of the paint jobs look like they were carefully applied while others are pretty crude...

                  Unfortunately for RR collectors, the only modern double-headed eagles that I've seen on post Soviet train cars were all printed on thin pastic or metal and then glued on!

                  Regards!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mathomhaus View Post
                    Glad to be of help!

                    Over the decades, a number of Soviet railcar insignias were also made of solid iron. I haven't seen any in a few years, but as I recall some had crossed wrenches at the bottom that were separately attached and some had them permanently fastened just below the USSR state emblem. Hugely heavy, I'd think that the iron patterns probably haven't been reproduced. Many iron ones also have paint on them; some of the paint jobs look like they were carefully applied while others are pretty crude...

                    Unfortunately for RR collectors, the only modern double-headed eagles that I've seen on post Soviet train cars were all printed on thin pastic or metal and then glued on!

                    Regards!

                    Once againg great info thank you!

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                      #11
                      I have one of the heavy, solid crests that includes the crossed tools beneath it. I'll try to take a photo of it this weekend and post it.
                      My crest, like a few other examples that I have seen, has holes in it that would have allowed the crest to be bolted to a railway car.

                      As for your example, I'm wondering if this might have been a type that was made to be used on something other than a railway car, such as a public official building.

                      Anyone else have any thoughts?

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