Real Lenin order?

[Charlia]

Hello, I am going to buy this to my humble collection if it´s real.

I don´t know, so I hope that someone here can tell my.
Even if you not are sure, tell me, I´m rather jump it than buy something I don´t know is real....

It cost´s about 30 dollar and the seller dosen´t know if the screw is the real one.

http://images.tradera.com/867/4061867_1.jpg
http://images.tradera.com/867/4061867_1.jpg

//Kalle

[DougD]

Red banner

you do know that thats not an Order of Lenin, but an Order of the Red Banner?

[Charlia]

you do know that thats not an Order of Lenin, but an Order of the Red Banner?

Damn I feel stupit, yeas I know that is a order of the Red Banner....

In Sweden we have something we call Hjärnsläpp "Drope your brain" =)

I should start read what I have writen next time I write, sorry.

[Charlia]

Can a moderater or something please change the name of this Tread *ashamed*

[HuliganRS]

To give a realistic opinion I would need a clear scan of the serial number and the mint mark.

From what I can see, the enamel was replaced in one area. That brings down the price of an original piece.

I wouldn't pay more than $150US.

Rusty.

[Charlia]

I ask the seller if he has more pictures.

//Kalle

[Charlia]

Here are som more pictures.

[HuliganRS]

I believe it's a fake!

The obverse is wrong.
The reverse is wrong.

Rusty.

[Charlia]

Ok, thanks.

I should know it was to good to be true, but you never know, I usaly buy my medals on street-sales and there you can find some real cheap medals, lika a swedish miniatyr north star-order in gold for about 20 american cents (5 smal pins for a dollar)

[Charlia]

Ok, thank you very much!
If you want to point out some special things to look at the next time I find one of this I woud be very glad.

I should know it was to good to be true, but you never know, I usaly buy my medals on street-sales and there you can find some real cheap medals, lika a swedish miniatyr north star-order in gold for about 20 american cents (5 smal pins for a dollar)

[HuliganRS]

Ok, thank you very much!
If you want to point out some special things to look at the next time I find one of this I woud be very glad.

I should know it was to good to be true, but you never know, I usaly buy my medals on street-sales and there you can find some real cheap medals, lika a swedish miniatyr north star-order in gold for about 20 american cents (5 smal pins for a dollar)

Here's a quick overview:

The "Leg?" to the right of the bottom red triangle should be touching the pole. This only occured in the screwback variations.
The MM is wrong for this S/N and the S/N itself is slopily engraved. The screwpost looks to thick and too long. The screwpost base is wrong.

Rusty.

[HuliganRS]

Also, the enamel is damaged in several places as well as cracked.

If you pay good money, might as well find an ideal piece.

I can point you where you ca find authentic and clean piece for around $180.
No, not me a dealer.

Rusty.

[Charlia]

I can point you where you ca find authentic and clean piece for around $180.
No, not me a dealer.
Rusty.

Thats my big problem, to buy something for 180 bucks means no food, no beer, no party in a month, thats why I always have my eyes open for cheap thing.
The student´s in Sweden dosen´t have so mutch money..

When I collect the whole world (Soviet is one of my favourit countrys) it´t not so hard finding cheap things, I mean a campain medal from some big war dosen´t have to be so expensive and it´s stil funny =)

But thanks anyway!

[New World]

Kalle,

I wouldn't buy this one - raises too many read flags...

William

[PaulR]

I agree with the above. The enamal is definatly wrong as are the markings on the back. I believe this to be one of the earlier fakes. Even the manner in which the serial number is engraved is different from the examples I have seen in the past. I believe that by the price the vendor is trying to dump a piece of.... fast!