Schneetarnanzug in the BW

[BWilhelm]

Steve has good stuff. No doubt about that!

[Guardian 5]

Gents,

You'll be happy to know that Herman, guardian of the beer fridge, remains on duty in uniform appropriate for the weather.

All the best,
TJ


Note: We established awhile back that the schneetarn helmet cover seen here was designed for the mountain troop's climbing helmet.

Note 2: BWilhelm, love that old school G3 with the wooden furniture

Note 3: Steve does have the goods!

[Collectinsteve]

Herman looks like he needs a beer! What kind of a slipshod operation do you run down there, TJ?

Cool info about the helmet cover being specific to the GJ helmet. I must have missed that thread.

Steve

[hoover]

nice mannequin, Guardian.

But only one small improvement: We everytime wore the rain suit beneath the snow camo. The padded jacket alone is not water resistant, and when wet once, you won´t be drying it during the exercise. So we wore the gore tex suit under it (first the OD, later the camos). .

I had the fun to wore a wet uniform for some days in Norway, back in the early 90´s. No chance to dry it and no chance to change to the second spare uniform for some days.

[Gordon Craig]

Hovver,

If possible, would you please post pictures of the goretex waterproof suit that you wore under the cammo suit.

Regards,

Gordon

[Guardian 5]

hoover,

Thanks for the feedback!

I think I have an oliv raincoat in the closet somewhere.


Steve,

Beer and "oot-zies" don't mix!

All the best,
TJ

[hoover]

I have to look for a photo. In 1991 we got the first rubber rain suits, but they were crap. In 1992 or 1993 we got the olive goretex suits. They were much better. I only have my rubber suit somewhere in the attic.

[Towarish]

We also wore the Nässeschutz benath because the suits soaked up very quick.

Best,
Phil

[uscob]

Great topic! There's usually not much to get excited about in terms of snow camouflage as it's usually just white cloth made into a simple oversuit. The Bundeswearh was one of the only countries to employ a reversible type with something other than white on the other side. Goes back to various garments made in WW2.

Gordon has hit on all the general issue uniforms. There are a few other trials pieces too, so I'll try and work them in all together:

1. Trials around 1960. For sure "palm leaf" and "broad splinter" reversible white were tested. Both patterns were the two black print screens of Splittertarn pattern tested in 1957. There might have been a third that was only white, but it's unclear if it existed.

2. First Modell 1962?-1966? Button fasteners with detachable hood. Reversible white/needles.

3. Second Modell 1967-2000s? Zipper front with snaps and attached hood. Reversible white/needles. Comes in at least two major colorations. with the darker one being the more recent type.

4. Cape early 1960s. There appears to be only one type, but they sure did make a lot of them. There was a surplus supplier a few years ago that was selling them in packs of 10 really cheap. Reversible white/needles.

5. Third Modell 2006?-present? Simplified version of the standard oversuit made from water resistant cloth. Solid white only.

6. "KSK" Modell 2000s-present. No similarity to the earlier designs in any meaningful way. It is a complex and very rugged design that appears to be intended for wear over thermal liners and not the standard uniform. Although it is called "KSK", and seems to have started out as such, there's a lot of them out there so I think at some point they were put into wider use. Solid white only.

7. Helmet cover 1980s? I forget the details about this, but it is a plastic type material with needles on one side. I don't remember if it reverses to white.

Gordon, to answer your question about BWilhem's smock, you can see details of his excellent work here:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=schneetarn

Steve

To No.7: The Coated Helmet Cover was a NBC Helmet Cover to my knowledge and the other side was OD. Somewhere I must have 2 0r 3 left. Maybe I find them one day.

[uscob]

Found this while sorting some Ponchos last week and also....

[uscob]

...some of these.

[Collectinsteve]

Neat! A very creative Hauptman

Are the pack covers made from old capes, or are they made new for that purpose?

Steve

[uscob]

Neat! A very creative Hauptman

Are the pack covers made from old capes, or are they made new for that purpose?

Steve

Steve, sorry, had no Helmet by the Hand. It's a Helmet Cover made from Capes.
The BW didn't had them in their official System, so they were made by Troop Tailors on demand. Officially, the Soldiers had to use the Hood to cover the Helmet, but this wasn't very efficient in the Field.

[Collectinsteve]

Ah yes. I should have seen from the size of the needles that this wasn't a pack cover. Oh well

Elastic gather helmet covers like this are terrible from what I can tell. The cover tends to close around the head which is both uncomfortable and also too warm. At least that is my experience from these sorts of things.

Steve