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    #1

    bundeswehr book

    hello,

    Hello,

    I am looking for a book on uniforms of early bundeswehr and on ebay I found this:
    http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...84.m1438.l2649

    Is it interesting?

    is there a book on the marine, luftwaffe and heer uniforms?

    best regards

    Laurent
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    Laurent,

    Yes this is a worthwhile book to have. I refer to it often. There is another modern book I have in my library called "Von der Affenjacke zum Tropentarnanzug" by Walter Kunstwadl. You can find it pictured in the Reference Book section on this forum. It covers all three services.

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=355199


    Regards,

    Gordon

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      #3
      thank you for the information. I'll look for the book by Walter Kunstwadl

      Best Regards

      Laurent

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        #4
        I think any serious BW collector needs to have both Kunswadl and Schuster's excellent books. Not cheap, but absolutely worth the price. If you're into pictures of 1950s uniforms in use, the man you need to talk to is Jens Hopefully he'll come along and "pimp" his book since I have no idea where to get one.

        Steve

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          #5
          Somebody called me ??

          Sadly at the moment there is - as far as I know - no retailer offering my "AndernachEarlyBundeswehrPicturebook" directely in the states ... but it is available on German Amazon http://www.amazon.de/begann-Andernac...6509908&sr=1-7 or directely from the publisher who os for sure ready to send it anywhere it is needed https://www.vs-books.de/shop/details...=1&start=0&nr=

          GoodBuy,

          Jens

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            #6
            I bought the book by schuster. I note the book by jen thank you for your answers

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              #7
              Both books, the Schuster and the Kunstwadl, are not bad at all. I only own the Schuster and an older one from the "Motorbuchverlag" by Homann, but all of them are not reaching the class of the Kraus/Schlicht Books about the 'old' german army. The Kunstwadl gives a very good overview, but in some points it's not optimal strucured.

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                #8
                Nightwish,

                Thanks for your comments re these two books. We had a discussion some time ago about the best way to structure a book on the BW. We did not draw any concrete conclusions because each suggestion had its draw backs. The books you mentioned on "the old army" are good but the authors have a huge collecting fraternity to draw on for reference material. BW collecting doesn't have that sort of support yet but perhaps it will in the future. For now, these two books, plus the one by Horman that you mentioned, are what we have to work with. What they lack we can explore here on the forum.

                Regards,

                Gordon

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                  #9
                  I agree with Gordon. Kraus and Schlicht have the benefit of a topic that has far more interest and previous documentation than anybody doing Bundeswehr work. Therefore, Kunstwadl and Schuster had to spend considerable time "breaking new ground" and had fewer collectors/experts to collaborate with. Their works compare very favorably compared to anything Bundeswehr related that came before them.

                  Format is always a big topic of debate, so again I agree with Gordon Part of the reason is Human brains do not organize thoughts the same way. What makes sense to Person A is frustrating to Person B and useless to Person C. Make some changes and now Person A finds it frustrating, Person B is happy, and Person C thinks it's even worse (unfortunately, there is always a Person C ).

                  And of course trying to cram 55 years of history of everything into one book is impossible. Yet I don't think there's a market for having a specialized series of books. Market realities dictate the product.

                  Plus, there's no better books out there on the BW so it doesn't matter how they compare to another topic's documentation. Having an excellent source of information for the braid on a 1932 parade uniform doesn't help me when trying to figure out what kinds of helmets the BW wore in the 1990s

                  Steve

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                    #10
                    I agree with both of you!

                    My intention was not to minor the authors merit on these books. For bundeswehr-collectors they are milestones! And sure, we have to work with tem, cause there are no better ones!

                    To me, text- and pictureparts inside the Kunstwadl-book are not optimal related. Or in other words, the pictures sometimes are'nt optimal described. Thats a problem - and I'm a 'native speaker'.

                    But what I wanted to figure out with my interjection was, and you also did, that Kraus/Schlicht have a much wider support by german museums and archives and also an easyer access. So there information-base is much wider.

                    That makes the difference between such books in general.


                    Best regards,

                    Nightwish

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nightwish View Post
                      I agree with both of you!

                      My intention was not to minor the authors merit on these books. For bundeswehr-collectors they are milestones! And sure, we have to work with tem, cause there are no better ones!

                      Really not?


                      There is a small but nice brochure given out by the german army:

                      http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bw...NsMbY_gBi6xli/

                      "Click" on the right on "Broschüre" - "Die Uniformen der Bundeswehr" to download the pdf.



                      Nightwish

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