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    BW in Somalia 1993........

    Gentlemen....... Somalia, East Africa early 1990's, a civil war is raging between the Government and rebel warlord factions,this is the time of "Blackhawk down". In April 1992 an uneasy ceasefire is negotiated and monitored by U.N. forces.....In August 1992 the German Government decides to offer humanitarian aid to mitigate famine in the war torn area, and an air bridge, involving Luftwaffe transport aircraft, began bringing in supplies,to Mombassa airport (Kenya). In June 1993 the Bundestag, the German Parliament passed new laws to allow the Bundeswehr to operate outside of Germany as part of the operation UNOSOM II. This was the first time the German Army had operated outside of Germany since the end of WW2.
    Two contingents of over 3000 troops performed transport and supply duties until March 1994, they were based at Beledweyne, North of Mogadishu.
    For a more in depth information on this operation see here... http://somalia.alpha-blog.com/
    The BW at the time of planning this deployment had no suitable uniforms for African involvement, the current moleskin type uniforms were deemed to heavy for tropical use, alternatives could not be designed and made quickly enough, U.S. uniforms were offered to the BW, but declined in favour of French Army fatigues, the F1 combat uniform. This comprised of lightweight jacket and trousers, French desert boots were also worn....together with current "new style" oliv colured combat equipment and the Model 826 Gefechthelm, and with their own unit berets, this formed the uniform of the German contingent of UNOSOM II.......these troops were issued UN accoutrements,blue berets/neck cravat/helmet covers and an arm band with the German flag emblem, "Germany" rocker and the UN badge....which is all most German troops wore, but some stitched insignia to their jackets, in addition, rank badges were worn, the slip on variety over the shoulder straps.....a khaki/sand coloured beanie/cowboy type hat was also issued and worn, this was a German made item.
    Prost ! Steve.
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    Here I show my impression of an infantry senior NCO (Der Spiess) in Somalia 1993.....the hat is not an German made item but is similar in appearance, they are very rare to find for sale.....if any one has one ?
    Prost ! Steve.
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      type of trousers worn, again part of the French supplied uniform............
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        I think I happen to have a helmet of that operation.

        Last year I bought this m92 helmet, and it came with a UNO cover with the text UNOSOM II 93/94 written at the back. The cover seems to be original to the helmet.


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          Jeroen, what a great original piece of that campaign you have, with provanance !
          I have a UN cover for the M92, but alas as in new condition.............thanks for showing !
          Prost ! Steve.
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            Excellent examples gentlemen. Great to see. I'd love to find an olive drab German arm brassard, the most common ones Ive seen are mostly in the flecktarn pattern

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              Originally posted by Steve 5 View Post
              ...if any one has one ?
              At least two should be around here in "the crew" ... I once found them but as its beyond my timeline I sold them here ... maybe one of the guys can post some pictures!

              Jens

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                #8
                Gentlemen,

                As Jens says, he was kind enough to sell me one of these hats. For reference, Kunstwadl does not discuss this hat in his section on Head Gear but he does show a picture of the hat in wear, in UNOSOM, in a picture on page 91, and mentions that the soldiers are wearing French uniforms. These hats only have snap fasteners on one side and are worn turned up on the right hand in the picture on page 91. I have done the same in the pictures of the one in my collection as shown below. The only markings in the hat are the small label at the back of the hat.

                Regards,

                Gordon
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                    Thanks Gordon thanks for your input, its great to see one of those hats in hand, so to speak ! I knew they were German made............there is an image in Schuster's book, page 135..........
                    If anyone has a spare ?
                    Prost !Steve.

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                      Steve,

                      Thanks for reminding me about the picture in Schuster's book. Kunstwadl's book was at hand, doing more work on my collection inventory, and it never occurred to me to look anywhere else.

                      Regards,

                      Gordon

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                        #12
                        Thanks Gordon! I also have one from Jens and I've simply not had time to go look for it. Now I don't have to

                        One quick question. Long ago I saw a 1993 dated French jacket with BW flags on each sleeve. Was it common practice for these to be affixed, was it an individual decision, or was this a collector "tarting up" a French jacket that had no actual association with BW deployment?

                        Steve

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                          Steve,

                          In the picture on page 91 of Kunswadl's book there is a flag visible on the left sleeve of one of the soldiers. The other guy is wearing a brassard with the flag, Germany and the UN badge on it. It was common for the police to wear the flag on their shirts when serving abroad, I have a couple of shirts from a guy who served in Kosovo, so I would say probably done by all.
                          The picture below the one of the UNOSOM guys shows another group of BW soldiers on a different UN mission, blue berets, wearing camouflage uniforms with flags on the shoulders.

                          Regards,

                          Gordon

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                            Hi Gordon,

                            For sure the flags on standard BW items were worn abroad. No doubt about that. As I look through more than a dozen Somalia pictures I have yet to see any on the sleeves themselves, just on the brassard. Unfortunately most don't show anything other than the right sleeve, so the pool of evidence is smaller than the total number of pictures.

                            The only picture I have of a flag on the left shoulder is a soldier wearing a standard BW field shirt, not a French jacket. The Kunstwadl picture on Page 91 is also not of a French jacket. Perhaps it is a BW Feldhemd field made to be short sleeve, which is not an uncommon thing for soldiers to do (as is making shorts by cutting off the legs).

                            So at this point I don't know if flags were added to the French jackets. Based on the scant evidence I have I'd have to say it wasn't standard practice, at least.

                            Steve

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                              Originally posted by Steve 5 View Post
                              Jeroen, what a great original piece of that campaign you have, with provanance !
                              I have a UN cover for the M92, but alas as in new condition.............thanks for showing !
                              Prost ! Steve.
                              Hi Steve

                              Was this helmet cover specially designed for the German m92 helmet, or for the standard USA PASGT helmet?

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