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    Unknown Insignia Lot, W.German?

    Picked this up on flea-bay in a badly described cheap lot with a couple of other goodies that I actually wanted (k98 marked bayo frog, post-war DDR or Polish shoulder holster, etc)

    So now I have about 10 pieces of insignia that's a total mystery to me. Supposedly one of the metal wings is W.German.

    Perhaps someone can recognize any of this stuff and see if anything's worth anything, before it goes into a giant shoebox of "random insignia", never to be seen again.

    Figure we can # it like this:

    1 5 8
    2 6 9
    3 7 10
    4
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    Last edited by Thomas J. Cullinane Jr.; 10-19-2010, 04:54 PM.

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    1 German BW Para wings
    2 French Para wings
    3 German Para Wings
    4 German Lw Speciallist badge Bronze Flugzeugtechniker (aircraft points upwards)
    5 French ?
    6 French ?
    7 French ?
    8 French ?
    9 French ?
    10 Spanish
    Last edited by Marc Sherriff; 10-19-2010, 01:50 PM.

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      #3
      Yes, that are French Ecuissons.

      5 French ?
      6 French ?
      7 French ?
      8 French ?
      9 French ?

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        #4
        Originally posted by hoover View Post
        Yes, that are French Ecuissons.
        Modern? And Ecuisson is a collar tab, I assume? google search came up with nothing.

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          #5
          The Spanish Army crest is for a beret.

          Steve

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            #6
            the French name for this Style of Patches is Losagne de Bras Modèle 1945.
            The plain ones Called Ecusson de Mobilisation.
            5. Arme Blindee-Cavalerie - Dragons (Today's Tanks Units)
            6. Infanterie
            7. Arme Blindee- Cavalerie-Chasseurs (Today's Tanks Units)
            8. Artillerie
            9. Materiel

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              #7
              Originally posted by Uberman View Post
              Modern? And Ecuisson is a collar tab, I assume? google search came up with nothing.
              Modern, Yes, Collar Tab, No. These Patches ar Arm Patches worn with Chevrons (If entitled). Ecusson means only Patch. This Style is a Losagne de Bras. Ecusson de Mobilisation means Patch for unassigned Personel like in Basic Training or so. After assigned to a Unit, they get a Patch with Symbol and sometimes a Number. A collar Patch is a Ecusson de Col.
              BTW: The pin on the French Para is British. Can you show the Lugs on it from the side? Looks unusual without any maker marks.

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                #8
                Originally posted by uscob View Post
                Modern, Yes, Collar Tab, No. These Patches ar Arm Patches worn with Chevrons (If entitled). Ecusson means only Patch. This Style is a Losagne de Bras. Ecusson de Mobilisation means Patch for unassigned Personel like in Basic Training or so. After assigned to a Unit, they get a Patch with Symbol and sometimes a Number. A collar Patch is a Ecusson de Col.
                BTW: The pin on the French Para is British. Can you show the Lugs on it from the side? Looks unusual without any maker marks.
                Very interesting about the French insignia, thank you. Worth anything or just trade/giveaway fodder?

                Sure, here's a few pics of the lugs on the para badge
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Uberman View Post
                  Very interesting about the French insignia, thank you. Worth anything or just trade/giveaway fodder?
                  If you ever find anybody interested in trading or (gasp) buying any of the Ecusson, let me know because I have had a small pile of them for more than 10 years and haven't found a use for them yet

                  The French jump qualification badge is probably worth something. It's not French issue, though, from what I know. Someone suggested is British, probably meaning for use by British troops who trained with French paras? If it were French issue there would be a stamp on the back, and there appears to be none.

                  Steve

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Collectinsteve View Post
                    If you ever find anybody interested in trading or (gasp) buying any of the Ecusson, let me know because I have had a small pile of them for more than 10 years and haven't found a use for them yet

                    The French jump qualification badge is probably worth something. It's not French issue, though, from what I know. Someone suggested is British, probably meaning for use by British troops who trained with French paras? If it were French issue there would be a stamp on the back, and there appears to be none.

                    Steve
                    I would say it's also not British as they normally have different Lugs, so, who knows.

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                      #11
                      Possibly it is just a fake. If there is a real airborne badge for a country then there are dozens of fake types on the market. Unless we're talking about Third Reich, in which case there are thousands of fake types

                      Steve

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                        #12
                        Uberman,

                        I have a post war French para badge for comparison with yours. Mine is well marked. The chap that sent it to me had the following to say "badge is free and the postage negligible, both 'lugs' remain and are intact, it is just missing the French bar style pin with the ball at the end that slots into the lugs to hold it in place."
                        He mentioned in a different PM that newer one were of a much cheaper construction and this may be where your badge comes into it. Since I don't collect French militaria I can not say if this is one of the newer badges. I obtained this badge in the hopes that it would fit loops on a Bundewehr uniform para uniform where foreing jump wings are often worn. He also mentioned that they were plentiful on French ebay.

                        Regards,

                        Gordon
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