Saw this today and have to take out my "Zeltplanen" to try the same and find out how it works with BW shelter halves.
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That is very nice! Looks like 6 were used.
Somewhere I have diagrams of how to assemble a variety of shelters from the three sided Zeltplanen. There are more possibilities than I expected!
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for the normal 3 and 4 sided ones i have them. The problem with the BW Dackelgarage is that they're squared with a 3 sided attachment on ea. end like the US ones. how to combine these?Originally posted by Collectinsteve View Post
BTW: I also have some German made, BW style shelter halves in belgian camo.Comment
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In 1955 a company in Konstanz (Germany), produced BW, Belgian, and Swiss sets in identical construction but different camouflage. The design was used for a few more years by Belgium and Switzerland, but was dropped. Germany continued using this design.
The rarest of all of these is a special version made for Swiss bicycle riders. It is the same as the standard type but with sleeves for both arms! I have only seen one of these for sale (a friend now has it).
The only Belgian types I have seen are produced either in "Moon & Balls" (pattern used from 1952 through 1956) and "Jigsaw" (pattern used from 1958 through today). As far as I know only two batches were produced, one for each type of camo. I don't remember exactly, but I think all were produced in Germany. As far as I know none were produced in "Brushstroke" (pattern used from 1954 until about 1975).
In total, here are all the versions I am aware of:
1. BW Amoebatarn
2. BW Flecktarn
3. Swiss Leibermuster (normal)
4. Swiss Leibermuster (with sleeves)
5. Belgian Moon & Balls (an earlier version of Brush)
6. Belgian Jigsaw
I have at least one that is in a gray cloth, not camo. I can't remember what nation it is from, but I think Switzerland.
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Steve,Originally posted by Collectinsteve View Post
don't forget the "Steingrau-oliv" of the Bundeswehr.
Hard to find as most of them were converted into other Stuff by Regimental Tailors or got destroyed.Comment
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The foreign variations are not very well known even in collector circles ! Years ago I bought a "Ball&Moon" set from a fellow collector who sold it as "Truppenversuch" as this was his (and mine too) only clue on a shelter of the BW type, stamped "Konstanz 1956" in a strange not very well known camo. I sold it as soon as I knew about its origin and finding someone interested in early belgian stuff....
Nico, if you build this big tent the triangular parts of the shelter halves are the overlapping section on the edges. Beside six complete sets you need some extra poles + strings.
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One day I have to try it. Extra Poles, Strings and stakes are no problem, I have enough of them. Allway's good to have kept them as Sturm sells the new Camo Shelters with NVA poles and not the original ones so I can replace them. Years ago I gave my Amoeba Tent to a friend to joke his Feldwebel in an exercise. He allowed only stuff with German NSN Number so he was yelling around and after my friend showed him the NSN (not the Date) he was allowed to use it. He also told him that the commander (Col.) told him to use everything usable to cover even if it's foreign, as he is a G22 and M82 Sniper.Originally posted by Asbjoern View Post
Now he's a HFW himself and Sniper Instructor.Comment
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Those fantastic sleeves !!!!
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And there it is in all its Swiss sleeved glory
Nico,
AH! Then I think this answers my question. I have one and was not sure if it was BW or Swiss. Looks like it is BW. Good to know!don't forget the "Steingrau-oliv" of the Bundeswehr.
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Just a heads up , you can see several of the styles/types of zelts here :
http://zeltbahn.panzerwerk.com/index...d=33&Itemid=43Comment
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Do you plan to post also the one colour Zelt's. I have several Types from different countries of them in Stock.Originally posted by panzerwerk View Post
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I might eventually , right now I have not had the chance or money to buy the solid color zelts , I have concentrated on Camo , but I may in the future if money and the opportunity arises .Do you plan to post also the one colour Zelt's. I have several Types from different countries of them in Stock.
Nico
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Let me know when you want to start. I have some different in Stock.Originally posted by panzerwerk View PostI might eventually , right now I have not had the chance or money to buy the solid color zelts , I have concentrated on Camo , but I may in the future if money and the opportunity arises .Comment
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Drop me a PM !!!Let me know when you want to start. I have some different in Stock.Comment
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