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    The G36 Bayonet

    Gentlemen,

    Since I started my thread on the G3 bayonets TJ and I have been wondering about the bayonets used on the G36. I know from previous research that some DDR bayonets were modified for use with the G36 but I had no further knowledge than that. I researched the internet and found only pictures of the modified bayonet but no description of what modifications, if any, had been made to the bayonet. So far my research indicates that the DDR bayonets that were modified were the second issue AK74 bayonets made in the DDR. The second type differed from the first type in having black plastic grip scales , versus the red ones on the first issue, and a different pattern of strengthening ribs on the scabbard. The modifications caried out by the BW were fairly simple. They replaced the DDR leather frog with a web one which would fit their field gear. The only thing done to the bayonet was to replace the 17.5mm muzzle ring with a 22mm one. From pictures of a modified bayonet this appears to have been done by cutting off the original muzzel rings and welding on a new one in its place. Here is a comment from a fellow member of the Bayonet Collectors Networ (BCN).

    "Hello Gordon - The East German 2nd pattern AKM bayonet certainly fitted the Heckler & Koch G36 rifle. The bayonet was modified to fit the West German rifle. It originally had a 17.5 mm muzzle ring to fit the AKM - this was enlarged to 22 mm to fit the G36 assault rifle. Most Heckler & Koch G3 rifles mount a bayonet above the barrel with the pommel catch locking into the bayonet adaptor in the forward end of the cocking tube. The G36 however had a bayonet bar below the barrel which accepted the converted AKM bayonet. The G36 bayonet bar was of the same proportions as the AKM bar so the bayonet's pommel mortise did not require alteration, just the muzzle ring. Roger D.C. Evans."

    And a picture supplied by another BCN member showing a side-by-side comparison of a non-modified bayonet and a modified bayonet.
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    A picture of the bayonet beside the modified scabbard frog.

    Regards,

    Gordon
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      #3
      Gordon - Great bit of research there, thanks for clearing up the confusion.

      I wonder what brought about the change of heart within the German Government to again permit the "fixing of bayonets"?

      My only thought is that BW experience in the Balkans, or perhaps world wide deployments in general, may have brought about the change in policy.

      While 'full on' bayonet charges are consigned to the annals of history, bayonets are great for POW escort, as a show of force to a restive or hostile population, or just to show the bad guys that you mean business. There's nothing like cold steel to send a message.

      Can anyone point to a policy shift or BW regulation that addresses the use of bayonets?

      Thanks again - TJ

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        #4
        Gentlemen,

        Two more pictures of the AK74 modified for used on the G36 rifle. The first one is a closer view of the larger muzzle ring and shows the way it was welded to the bayonet.

        Regards,

        Gordon
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          #5
          Originally posted by Thomas J. Cullinane Jr. View Post
          Can anyone point to a policy shift or BW regulation that addresses the use of bayonets?
          Thanks again - TJ
          You don't get issued a bayonet. When you are serving in the infantry you may get issued the KM (Kampfmesser) 2000 which is more likely used as a tool.
          Point of policy is to act de-ascalating.

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            #6
            Towarish,

            Thanks for your input. This is, of course, the other side of the question. Proving that the bayonets were modified to fait a different rifle, and we are assuming it was for the G36, is no proof that the bayonet was actually issued to the troops in the field. We have no pictures to prove that.

            Regards,

            Gordon

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              #7
              Originally posted by Gordon Craig View Post
              Towarish,

              Thanks for your input. This is, of course, the other side of the question. Proving that the bayonets were modified to fait a different rifle, and we are assuming it was for the G36, is no proof that the bayonet was actually issued to the troops in the field. We have no pictures to prove that.

              Regards,

              Gordon
              I've never seen a bayonet attached to the G 36 during my service.
              But I know that there is a Eickhorn made bayonet which is/was extra designed for the G 36. As far as I know its widely used in Spain.

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                #8
                Towarish,

                Thanks for the additional information. It would appear that, although the AK74s were modified to possibly fit the G36, they were probably not used in the BW on the G36. I knew there was an Eickhorn bayonet made for the G36 but not where it was used.

                Regards,

                Gordon

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