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Found this in the thread "The first model BGS Helmet" interesting example of an early liner. Looks like it has a similar aluminium band as we are use to seeing in later M53 liners. The adjustment feature on the liner band, as well as the 12 aluminum pins or tacks holding the leather in place.
The obvious difference is how it is attached to the helmet. Must be be a second aluminum band attached to the first to provides the holes for the liner rivets.
The chin strap bales are spot welded to the helmet.
The cloth and leather components are same as the helmet liner in mine. I seem to see a progression in these three liners.
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myddrcaps,
Thanks for the link to Bernhard's post on the early BGS helmets. I must have missed that thread. Ties in very nicely with your helmet. Bernhard is a friend and a very knowledgable helmet collector so what he says would be correct.
Hugh,
I think I need to eat my words re my statement about BRD polizei helmets being green. I should know by now not to make "general" statements. Bernhard uses the term "polizeigrun" in his thread that was referenced by Phil. This points to the fact that polizei helmets are green is taken for granted by helmet collectors but there is always the exception. I got out my helmets and compared them and the best I can say is that different states appear to use different colours and what is green to one person can be seen as blue by another. Anyway, here are some comparison photographs of some polizei helmets for colour comparison.
P.P. Berlin on your right and a very green Bereitshcaft polizei helmet on your left.
Regards,
GordonAttached FilesLast edited by Gordon Craig; 01-22-2010, 12:27 PM.
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Gordon,
The Berlin and Hamburg helmets, are they the only ones with decals? I have never seen any others. (In my year of collecting)
The Berlin one, that is a VDN - Vereingte Deutsche Nickelwerke helmet? Correct? If I recall, The vent holes have a different shape than a quist or LS helmet.
Gordon and Hugh, thanks for sharing the photo!
George.
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Originally posted by myddrcaps View PostGordon,
The Berlin and Hamburg helmets, are they the only ones with decals? I have never seen any others. (In my year of collecting)
The Berlin one, that is a VDN - Vereingte Deutsche Nickelwerke helmet? Correct? If I recall, The vent holes have a different shape than a quist or LS helmet.
Gordon and Hugh, thanks for sharing the photo!
George.
Schleswig-Holstein used a shield in a polizei star on the front of a white helmet. U.S. helmet liners, painted white, were used by Nurnberg with POLIZEI in black across the front or a decal with a city crest in the centre of a polizei star also across the front of the helmet. These are reported to have been used in the 50s. There are probably other polizei helmets out there with decals that have not been put into print yet.
Regards,
Gordon
This is a PS after my post. These decals have now been reproduced so be careful if you ever consider buying one a helmet with a decal.
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