Questions about BW arm rank

[Collectinsteve]

For many years I've had questions about the different variations of arm rank worn by enlisted BW soldiers over the years. I finally decided to post some pictures of the different types I have and find out what they are!

What I am interested to know is when each of these types of ranks were in use, the branch that used them, and any other information that can help collectors know exactly what jacket they should be used for (or not!). All examples pictured are unissued.

First is Dienstabzeichen designed for the dress uniform jackets. D1, D2, and D4 are on a stiff material, D3 and D5 are on wool. D1 is on tan material, D2 light gray, D3 dark blue, D4 blue gray, D5 medium gray.

Second is Dienstabzeichen designed for field uniform jackets after 1962. All are on stiffened Moleskin cloth. The silver part of the ribbon in F4 is wider than F1-F3. The color of the center stripe for F1 and F2 is the same, F3 is much lighter, and F4 is more olive than F1 and F2.

Any and all thoughts appreciated!

Steve

[uscob]

Here I have one on HBT Material.

[uscob]

Your D3 & 4 look like Air Force.
D5 for the early Army Jackets, the others for the later, lighter Grey ones.

[hoover]

I have seen a lot of genuine sewn rang stripes which arethe wrng patterns for the jackets. Like here, a 1958 HBT Jacket with grey Gefreiter stripes of the Dienstanzug jacket.

[hoover]

The pics of my jacket.

[uscob]

That's how I like my Chevrons.

[Collectinsteve]

That is a pretty picture

Thanks for the comments. Most of the answers were as expected. The remaining question I have is about the width of the ribbons. There is two distinctly different widths. Maybe the narrower type was introduced the same year the Sterne size was reduced? I forget... 1967?

Steve

[uscob]

When I'm back in Storage I go through the Boxes and look for the width of the Stripes.
As they're clearly dated, maybe there is something to find out.