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    This is going to sound like a really stupid question but when good old Liz snuffs it and Charlie is made king, will all army badges be manufactued with a similar style kings crown to the old ones or will there be a new design. I know that the Victorian queens crown was different to the modern queens crown and was wondering do different monarchs have different style crowns.

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    Last edited by Rick Research; 05-03-2005, 11:57 AM.

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      Originally posted by Ciaran Byrne
      This is going to sound like a really stupid question but when good old Liz snuffs it and Charlie is made king, will all army badges be manufactued with a similar style kings crown to the old ones or will there be a new design. I know that the Victorian queens crown was different to the modern queens crown and was wondering do different monarchs have different style crowns.
      In all likelihood, the crowns will not change.

      "Queen's Crown" and "King's Crown" are misnomers. The "Queen's Crown" is the St. Edward's Crown, used in the monarch's coronation. The crown called the "King's Crown" is the design chosen by Queen Victoria for Edward VII, and referred to as the Tudor Crown because it supposedly resembled that of Henry VII (or Henry VIII; actual Tudor crowns were destroyed in the Civil War). It was also called the Imperial Crown because it was thought to be more "imperial"-looking and befitting the monarch of a world empire. It was decided to use it to standardize the royal cypher, as before 1902 there were many variations in crown designs on badges, seals and other insignia.

      Subsequent kings used the same design, but when Elizabeth II was crowned, she returned to the St. Edward's Crown. The empire was pretty much gone, and the title of Emperor of India was abolished in 1948, so an "imperial" crown seemed unnecessary.

      It seems unlikely Charles would change the crown for many reasons: (1) the St. Edward's Crown is what he will be crowned with, it's not a chick's crown; (2) to return to the Tudor Crown might be seen as representing imperial pretensions; (3) it was only used between 1902 and 1952-53, anyway; and (4) it would cost a lot of money to change everything with the St. Edward's Crown on it.

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        Originally posted by Rick Research
        What I've been wondering (and the kiddies too young to have lived through more than one reign may THINK strange) is what NAME shall he be called by?

        ...

        So what's Chuck picked, since Chuck I got chopped up a treat, and Chuck II was singularly unfecund, ultimately tossing Yon Stuarts over to that Hanoverian (horsy, but FERTILE) mob you've got now, with that Orange interlude of similar breeding failures. "Charles III" is NOT, one hopes, in the cards.
        Apparently, the one thing we do know is there will be no Queen Camilla. She will be known as "Her Royal Highness The Princess Consort."

        Edward VII was born Albert Edward, but King Bertie sounded odd. George VI was also born Albert - Albert Frederick Arthur George - and skipped over three names when he became king. Charles Philip Arthur George could follow that pattern and be King George VII. Or he could honor his father and start a new tradition as Philip I. But Charles has been heir to the throne for so long that it would be hard to think of him by any other name.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dave Danner
          Apparently, the one thing we do know is there will be no Queen Camilla. She will be known as "Her Royal Highness The Princess Consort."

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          Old hat chap she will be QUEEN. The “consort” thing was released at first so there would be less objection to the marriage.

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            Not Charles the Third

            No ... Charles III is not on the cards .... due to the exact reasons mentioned ...
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            I think that I heard somewhere he is going to actually be Edward IX or William V ... but of course I may be wrong !!!

            Gary J.


            Originally posted by Rick Research
            breeding failures. "Charles III" is NOT, one hopes, in the cards.

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              Last edited by Rick Research; 05-03-2005, 11:56 AM.

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                #8
                At the risk of offending my British/Commonwealth friends.

                Based on the general behavior of the Royal family recently,
                what about

                King Posh Spice I

                And Camilla could be the Princess Spice Consort?



                P. Frost

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                  #9
                  Kind've Old Spice?

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                    #10
                    Going astray

                    Ok .. we're going astray .... yet again ....

                    How about ...

                    Tarquin the 1st ?

                    Gary J.

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