Badges Part III

[Allan P.]

More London units?

Were the Artists rifles connected to the SAS?

Allan

[leigh kitchen]

Yep, Artists Rifles ended up as SAS, will post more info in a while when i get back in.

[Tony Farrell]

All you need to know:

http://www.regiments.org/regiments/u...vinf/L28ar.htm

[leigh kitchen]

Except it does'nt actually give you much detail about the badges?

[leigh kitchen]

From the top, left to right:

The London Regt was formed 1908, note the dates that badges were sealed does'nt mean that they were'nt worn until then, or even after sealed in the cases of some regiments.

19th (St Pancras), sealed 1916, OR's badges also made in white metal & in gilding metal. Became an RE searchlight unit in 1935.

17th (Poplar & Stepney Rifles)OR's badges also in white metal & in blackened brass.

Title changed in 1926 to Tower Hamlets Rifles, & in 1937 they became a TA bn of the Rifle Bde, now named Tower Hamlets Rifles, The Rifle Bde (Prince Cosort's Own), a different badge being adopted in 1937.

14th (London Scottish), sealed 16/5/16, still in use in anodised form by the London Scottish Company of the "new" London Regt.

Inns of Court OTC, they avoided becoming 27th Bn London Regt, became Inns of Court Regt in 1932, the title scroll at the bottom of the badge changed wording to reflect this, transferred to RAC in 1940, re-raised 1947 as a regiment of the RAC.

A St. edwarsd crown version in gold anodised was sealed 13/11/58, amalgamated in 1961 with thye City of london Yeomanry (Rough riders), adopted a slightly different badge design, it's been further messed around since - a TAVR company, a Signals unit........

28th (Artist's Rifles) OR's badges also in blackened brass & in gilding metal.

Ditto, replaced the above design, sealed 14/4/38 in white metal.

15th Bn (Prince of wales's Own Civil Service Rifles), OR's also in white metal.amalgamated in 1922 with 16th (Queen's westminster rifles) to form 16th (Queen's westminster & Civil Service Rifles), with a different pattern badge.

Beret badge (if fitted with a slider) or collar dog (if fitted with loops) of the Queen's Regt (West Surrey's), sealed 10/6/49, an anodised version was sealed 18/8/61. The full size version of this badge replaced a different pattern lamb & was sealed on 5/6/24. 22nd & 24th Bns London Regt (The Queen's wore the same badge as the regular Queen's, by 1937 they'd become TA bns of the regular Queen's as the London Regt was by now defunct.

11th (Finsbury Rifles), sealed 27/6/16, OR's badges also in gilding metal, some badges had voided centres, became a RA unit in 1935.

17th (Tower Hamlets Rifles, The Rifle Bde (Prince Consort's Own).

Looks like a yellow metal version of the 17th Bns. badge which has the remains of white metal or silver coating.

This unit's brass or gilding metal badges, along with some other London Regt badges are sometimes found silvered, offhand I'm not sure why - a cheap officers badge or a snazzy OR's badge.

Some yellow metal badges for other regiments are sometimes found coated in white metal, presumably WWI economy brass ones, plated with white metal so they could be worn rather than scrapped post war.

Probably a few cock ups there could do with correcting or additional info.

[Allan P.]

Wow, you know your stuff Leigh.

My Dad was in the Rifle Brigade, Prince consorts own/Tower Hamlets rifles?

Are they all pretty common badges to find.

I used to buy mine from an a guy in the Elephant & Castle years ago!! (paid about 6 old pence, or a shilling, for most.

Allan

[leigh kitchen]

The white metal Artists & the Civil Service POW feathers are about the most desirable, but they're not that uncommon - none of them are what you'd call scarce, but generally not as common as most of the basic regular infantry badges & the like. They're spread around the £6 - £15 mark really.