Thoughts On This Pegasus Please.

[GregK]

Hello all,

Non-Polish Airborne is not really my thing but this little fellow came my way on a recent holiday. I suspect that it is either a repro or post war but for the price I paid (almost nothing really) I figured I'd take a chance. Any thoughts or opinions that you fine fellows have would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Greg

PS. Des...if you're reading this I'll be in touch real soon.

[GregK]

The reverse.

Many thanks in advance chaps.

[Jack Dutton-Roberts]

Hi Greg,

I have always considered this patch to be a repro. The lack of a blue back would immediately put it under suspicion.

I think the pattern of pegasus patch was unchanged after WW2 - in other words there is no difference between a WW2 and a post-war pegasus patch.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, from Jack.

[GregK]

No Need To Be Sorry.

Hi Jack,

Thanks for the speedy reply. There is no need to be sorry at all. As I said...there is almost no money invested in this patch at all....literally. Let's put it this way...I have less than 1 Canadian dollar into this one so I have nothing to cry about.

Cheers,
Greg

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Greg, I would not be too hasty to disregard this Pegasus as a repro. I cannot say I have seen any like this before? The print is nicely detailed and correctly coloured, and is on ribbed cotton twill, but the back is unusual with this cheesecloth backing.

Have you seen this exact type before Jack?

Could this be Canadian made?

I would certainly be happy with it at the price you paid!

Cheers, Ade.

[Jack Dutton-Roberts]

Hi Ade,

I have seen this exact type very frequently recently. I have seen it mostly on badged up battledresses and from time to time a set appears on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

I had a converstation about this type with another collector and we agreed that it must be a repro considering the quantity seen recently and the fact that the majority are on badged up BDs. It was suggested to me by someone else that they maybe 1950s issue but this I do not tend to believe.

I can't prove if they're original/post-war/repro, but it is just a type I'm not happy/convinced with.

Thanks and I hope this helps, from Jack.

[DJT]

Hi Guys,

I have never come across that type before myself. Embroidered Pegasus Patches are more my area but I would agree with Jack in thinking this one is not WW2 issue.

Regards,

Des

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Jack, thanks for your comments, but the set on E bay are not the same. Have another look and you will see they are radically different in detail. Checkout the wing feathers.


I would like to see a set of these that Greg has pictured in hand. The thing that is unusual about them is the fact that they have a backing to them which is something I have not encounted before.

Hi Des, stick to embroidered ones, as you seem to do very well on those

Cheers, Ade.

[Jack Dutton-Roberts]

Hi Ade,

The details of Pegasus/Bellerophon are slightly different, you are right about that, but they are very much alike.

It could be 1950s but I think this is unlikely.

I still think it is a repro

Thanks from Jack

[VerKuilen Ager]

Two cents worth from the graphic arts trade:

Maybe I'm wrong, but the example in this thread appears to take a "positive" approach of a white Pegasus silk screened over a solid maroon base. The printed originals discussed here before employed a "negative" approach; maroon printing onto a white base material, with the Pegasus as a void or non-printing area.

If the item under discussion is in fact white ink over maroon, it represents a fairly significant difference in the manufacture of these and a very easily identified characteristic. Whether it's a Canadian variation or something else I'll have to leave to the experts.

[DJT]

Hi Ade,

Well I could do quite well with printed ones too but seeing as they were`nt worn by members of 5.sas I`m not that interested in collecting them . I`m still not sold on this patch being WW2. I`ve never seen an original wartime badge with that backing before?. I would also highly doubt the idea that the Canadians made their own pegasus patches during WW2. Their parachute unit was quite small and the cost and hassle of producing their own patches for such a small unit when they could simply get some from the British makes the idea seem very unlikely.


Hi Des, stick to embroidered ones, as you seem to do very well on those

Cheers, Ade.[/QUOTE]

[leigh kitchen]

Just a resonably uneducated query - is the badge printed with thin inks? The light blue seems to be in thickish "paint" ? (but then I always say that).

[GregK]

Hello Chaps,


Thanks for all the input.The construction of this badge is the blue printed on the red background. It also looks and feels very modern which led me to believe that it was a repro. As I said previously it cost me next to nothing so I bought it. It'll work well as a filler until I can dig up a good one.

Thanks again all.

Cheers,
Greg

[Adrian Stevenson]

Here is a pic posted on behalf of Marc Sherrif.

Marc tells me that this patch came from 44th Parachute Brigade (V)

Cheers, Ade.