Medal Group DSO, DFC, AFC, MID

[lanners55]

Gentlemen. Is there any way of putting a possible name to this group of beautiful miniatures?

DSO, DFC, AFC, Aircrew Europe with France and Germany Bar, MID and 1947 Independence of India etc.

Regards,

Simon

[AFF96]

Can't be of assistance Simon, but killer mini set!

[byterock]

Well there are some clues does not look like he had any post war military service (no long service medal or alike). Must be from the UK only (no other CW medals).

So I would follow along with the AFC award list to see had the DSO and DFC and then ween out the career officers and that should give you a very short list.

[Robert Shoaf]

Well there are some clues does not look like he had any post war military service (no long service medal or alike). Must be from the UK only (no other CW medals).

So I would follow along with the AFC award list to see had the DSO and DFC and then ween out the career officers and that should give you a very short list.

Unless commissioned from the ranks, officers would not be awarded a LSGC medal.
Regarding the group, I'm curious about the Indian Independence Medal, since all of this officer's wartime service appears to have been in the European Theatre. Could he have been posted to India after 1945, until at least 1947?
I would also guess that the combination of the three gallantry awards was rather rare.

Bob Shoaf

[lanners55]

Thanks gentlemen, some useful tips there and the quest continues. Please keep the comments coming.

Best regards,

Simon

[peter monahan]

I haven't read the award criteria in years, but I don't believe a Brit serving in the British Army or RAF could qualify for the Indian Independence Medal. It was awarded to members of the armed forces of the new state of India, so an RAF/ex=RAF would, I think, have to be a member of or at the very least on secondment to the Indian Air Force. That should narrow the field considerably, if you can track down an Army List or Indian Army List for 1947.

My tuppence worth!

Peter

[byterock]

Long service medal I was thinking of was the OBE, CMG or alike I guess I should of used the word Merit award

As for the IIM I just happen to have that open and it reads

'to British service personnel who remained in India after Independence to assist in the reformulation of the armed forces of India after Partition and who were still serving on 1 January 1948.'

[byterock]

I think I nailed it

Group Captain D. S. Radford, D.S.O., D.F.C., A.F.C.. (later Air Commodore)


would of got the Coronation Medal for this

www.householdcavalry.info/crowning.html


Though his history

http://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Radford_DS.htm

is a little unclear for the 45~48 preiod he could of been in India for 1 day and got the IID medal

[lanners55]

It certainly looks good to me and thanks again for all the effort that's gone into this one!

Best regards,

Simon

[Mike Swan]

Congratulations on acquiring such a significant miniature group.

The Medals Yearbook states that the India Independence Medal was invariably awarded to service personnel who took part in the independence ceremonies.

It's entirely feasible that your fellow was either invited to attend the ceremonies or was an ADC, or similar, to a distinguished British guest.

Regarding the absence of a LSGC, I have a lengthy attributed miniature group for an officer who rose through the ranks, but no LSGC. I was advised that a minor disciplinary infringement early in one's career could preclude an award of the LSGC. I'm not sure about the truth or otherwise of that opinion.

Mike

[paddywhack]

with regards officer and LSGC medals i asked this question over on the british medal form and was advised that officers didnt get long service medals as good conduct was expected from officers! all the long serving officers groups i have have no LSGC medals. officers raised from the ranks were later entitled to have the long service medal having served a minimum 12 years in the ranks!

[Mike Swan]

I just found out a bit more from the Medals Yearbook.

In 1947, RAF officers became eligible for the LSGC provided they served at least 12 years in the ranks.

Mike

[byterock]

Looking at it, If our chap is Radford then the mimi medals at 100% ok. He was a CB (Companion Order of Bath, Military) and that is a Neck badge.

As the only time one wears minis is with 'mess dress' or 'eveningwear', the regs state the full badge would be worn around the neck.

So his mini bar would never have the CB on it

His Ribbon bar would have the CB ribbon

[yellow]

This whole research project hinges around the 1953 Coronation medal roll. Your looking for a man awarded the DSO, DFC, AFC (possibly entitled to orders....dont rule those out!) present during the Battle of Britain and involved in the Inpendance of India.

Easy work when you have the roll and there are many medal collectors out there with it.

[paddywhack]

This whole research project hinges around the 1953 Coronation medal roll. Your looking for a man awarded the DSO, DFC, AFC (possibly entitled to orders....dont rule those out!) present during the Battle of Britain and involved in the Inpendance of India.

Easy work when you have the roll and there are many medal collectors out there with it.

iv the 53 rolls!i found him on it and it states he had at that time

DSO
DFC
AFC
ADC

i tried to up load a pic of it but it wont let me!pm me if you want me to email you a pic of it!