General Service cap (beret) in Navy Blue

[NickG]

Is this General Service cap (beret) in Navy Blue a war time British Royal Navy piece?
Its broad arrow marked and 1945 dated...
Note that it did NOT have any insignia when I got it...
So I added the Navy insignia but I am realizing its a post war "Queens crown" insignia...correct? so probably not a good match right?
This assuming its Royal Navy...Is it?

Would a similar "Kings crown" insignia be correct for this piece?
or anything else? Not navy? Army? Foreign like Free French or Free Poles maybe? Its very dark blue almost black in color...(faded black?)

[NickG]

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[NickG]

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[NickG]

I found this image on the web...but these appear to be regular berets...

So what would be appropriate insignia for this piece? Royal Navy? or???

[NickG]

Beachmaster from 1960's D-Day movie...
same thing?

[paul kennedy]

That's definitely a Queens crown, which would be incorrect. Did the beret have any holes for a badge? Are there any markings beside the ones in the center?
Thanks,Paul

[NickG]

That's definitely a Queens crown, which would be incorrect. Did the beret have any holes for a badge? Are there any markings beside the ones in the center?
Thanks,Paul

No holes at all Paul and the (post war) insignia (Chief Petty officer cap badge)
can easily be removed...
No other markings visible either...
So Royal Navy for sure but with an incorrect queen's crown, right?

[NickG]

Or instead of Royal Navy ...
Could it be a WW2 British CD Civil Defence Beret? (Air Raid warden Beret)
Those were blue right? So still Navy blue but not Navy at all!!!

Its a GS cap not a true beret...Here's their cap badge for CD headgear.
Is that appropriate? (this one is a reproduction offered on e-bay)

[NickG]

Like these Wardens? (lacking cap badges)

[NickG]

From the web:
Eton Air Raid Precaution Wardens.
The boys of Eton College private school have their own Home Guard Unit during World War II, and also have Air Raid Precaution Services, whose representatives, three of whom are pictured, are recruited from among the students.
(March 1943)

Could it be one of those berets (or rather GS cap) ?

[NickG]

I'm now thinking it could be head gear for CD wardens...
Also know as A.R.P. = Air Raid Protection in the UK.
Thoughts?

[NickG]

Thoughts?
This image from 1942

[NickG]

Now I'm finding out that there also was a"Royal Observer Corp"!
This image from 1945 (which matches my beret date...)
Is that a possibility?
Blue caps as well?
I have a suspicion that their caps were RAF blue though...

ANy thoughts?

[JedburghDanny]

All the types you've posted in pictures of CD, ARP, ROC are the later leather band type beret. I don't think its a RAF beret either from the types I have in my collection.

The pattern follows that of the GS Cap. My guess is that is a Tankies one. Originally dyed black for the RTR?

Danny

[Naaficook]

It's a blue dyed scottish Tom 'O Shanter.

Don't know why it's dyed, but that's what it is !