Glengarry dicing question

[Wallace]

Hello can someone please help me??I won this in an auction but i forgot all about it that i bid on it now i have won it.Can someone tell me if this is the correct dicing for a Toronto Scottish Glengarry??Thank you very much.

[Wallace]

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[Wallace]

3rd photo

[peter monahan]

Patrick

I don't believe this is a TorScots glengarry. The book "Dressed to Kill", which covers Canadian WWII uniforms lists the Regiment's glengarry pattern as follows: blue, blue toorie, diced Elcho blue, white and tan, black ribbon [edge] binding.
The Elcho blue - presumably the squares in the middle row, are a reminder of the regiment's affiliation with the London Scottish, whose caps were dark coloured (black or dark blue) over a Hodden grey uniform.

Oddly, none of the Cdn Scottish regiments have dicing listed as "diced scarlet, white & blue", though 8 have "diced scarlet, white & green". So, unless I'm misunderstanding the meaning of 'diced' - I assume that the third colour listed are the 'center' squares - either the cap isn't Canadian or the dicing pattern changed after 1945. The latter is possible, as the Cdn Forces introduced many economies after 1970 or so and a single pattern for all glengarried units is possible, but that is pure speculation on my part.

Sorry if that's not much help , except in the negative sense - 'its NOT... Perhaps one of the other Cdn members has more knowledge on this topic.

Peter

[Adam H]

It's definitely not a Toronto Scottish glengarry. It is likely a civilian pattern.

[force136]

Tor Scot

That is right, the Toronto Scottish had an entirely sky/pale blue and white dicing. Other units did have scarlet, white and black. I have one here to a member of the FSSF who was in the Scots Fusiliers and his is scarlet, white and black ( not blue or green ). Looks like someone just stuck that badge on a Glen willy-nilly.

Ken

Patrick

I don't believe this is a TorScots glengarry. The book "Dressed to Kill", which covers Canadian WWII uniforms lists the Regiment's glengarry pattern as follows: blue, blue toorie, diced Elcho blue, white and tan, black ribbon [edge] binding.
The Elcho blue - presumably the squares in the middle row, are a reminder of the regiment's affiliation with the London Scottish, whose caps were dark coloured (black or dark blue) over a Hodden grey uniform.

Oddly, none of the Cdn Scottish regiments have dicing listed as "diced scarlet, white & blue", though 8 have "diced scarlet, white & green". So, unless I'm misunderstanding the meaning of 'diced' - I assume that the third colour listed are the 'center' squares - either the cap isn't Canadian or the dicing pattern changed after 1945. The latter is possible, as the Cdn Forces introduced many economies after 1970 or so and a single pattern for all glengarried units is possible, but that is pure speculation on my part.

Sorry if that's not much help , except in the negative sense - 'its NOT... Perhaps one of the other Cdn members has more knowledge on this topic.

Peter

[Wallace]

Thanks a lot guys for the info i will tell the seller that this is not a genuine Toronto scottish glengarry